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Excess Returns is dedicated to making you a better long-term investor and making complex investing topics understandable. Join Jack Forehand, Justin Carbonneau and Matt Zeigler as they sit down with some of the most interesting names in finance to discuss topics like macroeconomics, value investing, factor investing, and more. Subscribe to learn along with us.905628 Persönliche Finanzen Ökonomie
  • The Chart of Truth Is Turning | Rupert Mitchell on the Regime Change Investors Are Missing
    Jan 22 2026

    In this episode of Excess Returns, Rupert Mitchell returns to break down a rapidly shifting global macro landscape and explain how he is positioning across regions, assets, and market regimes. The conversation spans emerging markets, commodities, China, Latin America, US market leadership, and the risks building beneath familiar narratives. Rupert walks through the charts, frameworks, and portfolio construction decisions that underpin his current outlook, with a focus on duration, cash flows, and real assets in a changing cycle.

    Topics covered include:

    • Why US equity leadership is showing signs of fatigue after a decade-plus run

    • The case for emerging markets as a multi-year relative trade

    • Latin America as a commodity-driven opportunity rather than a political bet

    • Brazil, Mexico, and Peru through the lens of fiscal policy and real assets

    • Why India stands out as expensive within emerging markets

    • China’s equity market inflection and the role of domestic savings and fiscal support

    • The difference between onshore A-shares and offshore Chinese equities

    • Why Rupert prefers lower-beta, dividend-oriented exposure in China

    • How AI is being deployed differently in China versus the US

    • The risks facing enterprise software and long-duration growth assets

    • Portfolio construction, benchmarking, and managing drawdowns across cycles

    • How Rupert thinks about hedging, trend following, and capital preservation

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Macro market backdrop and early warning signals
    01:00 Venezuela, oil, and why context matters more than headlines
    04:40 The chart of truth and US versus international equities
    07:00 Emerging markets relative performance and historical parallels
    10:00 Duration risk, valuation, and the shift toward real assets
    14:30 Mag 7 leadership, software weakness, and AI disruption
    18:00 India valuations and the role of flows and derivatives
    20:40 Latin America beyond politics: commodities and fiscal drivers
    26:00 Brazil, Mexico, and country-level positioning
    29:50 Benchmarking and why Latin America is a major overweight
    32:10 China’s equity inflection and the ABC framework
    36:00 Fiscal policy, buybacks, and domestic savings in China
    41:00 Tencent versus Alibaba and managing drawdowns
    44:30 AI capex discipline in China versus the US
    46:00 Stock selection in China and second-derivative opportunities
    51:00 Portfolio construction, benchmarks, and risk management
    58:00 Blind Squirrel Macro, live shows, and ongoing research

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    1 Std. und 1 Min.
  • 10 Cents on the Dollar | Gary Mishuris on Mispriced Fear and Lessons from Warner Brothers
    Jan 21 2026

    In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with Gary Mishuris, Managing Partner and CIO of Silver Ring Value Partners, to explore how deep fundamental analysis, behavioral insight, and disciplined process come together in real-world investing. Gary shares formative lessons from his early career at Fidelity during the post-tech bubble period, including firsthand experiences learning from legends like Peter Lynch, and connects those lessons to how he evaluates value, quality, and mispricing today. The conversation spans a detailed case study on Warner Bros. Discovery, portfolio construction under uncertainty, selective use of options, and how artificial intelligence is reshaping the research process for long-term investors.

    Topics covered in this episode
    • Lessons from Peter Lynch and Fidelity on why “just cheap” does not work
    • The Silver Ring origin story and how early life experiences shaped a value investing mindset
    • Warner Bros. Discovery as a good business plus bad business mispricing case study
    • How hated stocks, spin-offs, and catalysts can unlock hidden value
    • Conviction, position sizing, and staying rational when the market disagrees
    • When and why options can be used in a value investing framework
    • Auctions, ego, and why prices can overshoot intrinsic value
    • The role of mental models like reflexivity, activation energy, and lollapalooza effects
    • How AI fits into an investment research process without replacing judgment
    • What average investors should understand about incentives and simplicity

    Timestamps
    00:00 Introduction and why “just cheap” does not work
    02:20 Early career at Fidelity and lessons from Peter Lynch
    07:40 The Silver Ring story and learning what real value means
    12:00 Warner Bros. Discovery and the good company bad company problem
    18:30 Conviction, mispricing, and maintaining discipline in hated stocks
    26:40 Using options selectively and managing portfolio-level risk
    34:10 Auctions, ego, and when price can detach from intrinsic value
    44:30 Entertainment, media disruption, and evergreen demand for content
    49:50 How AI is changing equity research and idea generation
    55:40 What AI can see that humans often miss
    01:00:30 One lesson for the average investor

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    1 Std. und 3 Min.
  • The Line We Can't Cross | Mike Green on the Passive Investing Endgame
    Jan 20 2026

    In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with Mike Green of Simplify Asset Management for a deep dive into how passive investing has reshaped market structure, altered price discovery, and created new sources of systemic risk beneath the surface of today’s equity markets. Mike explains why index funds are not as passive as most investors believe, how daily flows drive prices in increasingly inelastic markets, and why the growth of passive strategies may be pushing markets toward an unstable endpoint. The conversation also explores macro implications, AI-driven capital spending, demographic shifts, and what all of this means for investors navigating the years ahead.

    Topics covered

    • How passive investing and ETF flows actively influence market prices

    • The inelastic market hypothesis and why markets absorb flows differently than investors expect

    • Why index funds no longer fit the classic definition of passive investing

    • The growing share of passive ownership and what happens as it continues to rise

    • Potential market instability and the theoretical limits of passive dominance

    • How demographics, retirement flows, and 401k defaults affect market structure

    • Critiques of arguments downplaying the impact of passive investing

    • Why large-cap concentration keeps increasing despite slowing fundamentals

    • Implications for active management, stock selection, and liquidity

    • The role of AI, capital expenditures, and energy constraints in the macro outlook

    • What rising electricity demand and infrastructure investment mean for the economy

    • Housing market distortions, demographics, and long-term structural challenges

    Timestamps
    00:00 Introduction and why passive investing is not truly passive
    03:00 The inelastic market hypothesis explained
    06:00 Daily flows, index funds, and price impact
    08:20 How much of the market is now passive
    11:40 What happens if passive investing keeps growing
    14:20 Retirement flows and demographic effects on markets
    19:00 Responding to critiques of passive market impact
    23:00 Liquidity, concentration, and large-cap dominance
    27:00 Why market cap does not equal liquidity
    33:00 Active management under pressure
    38:00 Current market conditions and early-year rotations
    41:50 Economic growth, GDP, and underlying volatility
    43:30 AI capex, overinvestment, and market incentives
    47:00 Energy, electricity demand, and long-term constraints
    52:40 Housing, demographics, and policy challenges

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    56 Min.
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