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  • 198. American Christianity Divided in Responses to ICE
    Feb 4 2026

    This episode of Dangerous Dogma features a conversation between Word&Way Editor Brian Kaylor, Lutheran minister and journalist Angela Denker, and Disciples pastor and author Beau Underwood. The conversation includes discussion about ICE actions in Minneapolis, how many clergy are leading protests against ICE while others are supporting ICE, and new research worried about the loss of "purple" churches. You can watch a video version of the conversation here.

    Here are a few pieces related to the episode:

    • Brian wrote about two American Baptist congregations ministering in Minneapolis.
    • Angela mentioned a statement from the chaplain of the Minnesota Timberwolves.
    • Brian wrote about a pastor who gave a pro-ICE prayer.
    • Brian wrote about the protest at Cities Church in St. Paul.
    • Angela wrote at MS NOW about the church protest.
    • Angela mentioned a Substack piece by Stacey Patton about how a civil rights law is being twisted.
    • Brian and Beau wrote about how ICE is targeting churches.
    • Sarah Stankorb wrote at The New Republic about polarization in mainline Protestant churches.

    Also, check out the most recent books by the three panelists:

    • Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power
    • Angela Denker, Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood
    • Beau Underwood (with Brian Kaylor), Baptizing America How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism
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    58 Min.
  • 197. Anna Piela and Michael Woolf on Confronting Islamophobia in the Church
    Jan 30 2026

    In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with American Baptist ministers Anna Piela and Michael Woolf on Islamophobia, immigration, and how Christians can better engage with interfaith efforts. Anna and Michael are coauthors of the new book, Confronting Islamophobia in the Church: Liturgical Tools for Justice. Watch a video version of this conversation here.

    Here are a few pieces related to the episode:

    • Brian wrote about Michael's advocacy outside an ICE facility in Illinois
    • Michael wrote for Unsettling Advent about Advent in a time of soldiers in the streets
    • Brian recently testified against anti-Sharia law legislation in Missouri
    • Brian wrote about Franklin Graham preaching at the Pentagon

    Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winning e-newsletter A Public Witness that helps you make sense of faith, culture, and politics. And order the new book by Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power.

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    48 Min.
  • 196. Martha Bardwell on Faith Communities Responding to ICE in Minneapolis
    Jan 16 2026

    In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with Martha Bardwell, pastor of Our Saviour's Lutheran Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota, on how faith communities are responding to ICE violence in the Twin Cities and the ICE killing of Renee Good. Watch a video version of this latest conversation here.

    The episode includes a discussion on the misuse of Bible verses by the Department of Homeland Security. As this was being recorded, DHS released another propaganda video co-opting a Bible verse. Bardwell is among the faith leaders calling for an economic blackout on Jan. 23.

    Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winning e-newsletter A Public Witness that helps you make sense of faith, culture, and politics. And order the new book by Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power.

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    50 Min.
  • 195. Attacking Venezuela & Gambling on Jesus
    Jan 9 2026

    This episode of Dangerous Dogma features a conversation between Word&Way Editor Brian Kaylor, Lutheran minister and journalist Angela Denker, and Disciples pastor and author Beau Underwood. The conversation includes consideration of the U.S. attack on Venezuela and how Christians are responding, Pete Hegseth's pledge to change the military chaplaincy program, and how people are now betting on the return of Jesus and pretty much everything else in life. You can watch a video version of the conversation here.

    Here are a few pieces related to the episode:

    • Brian wrote at A Public Witness about Christian responses to the U.S. attack on Venezuela.
    • The Bulwark unpacked problems with Hegseth's criticism of the military chaplaincy program.
    • Brian documented Hegseth's Christian prayer services at the Pentagon.
    • People have been betting on the return of Jesus.

    Also, check out the most recent books by the three panelists:

    • Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power
    • Angela Denker, Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood
    • Beau Underwood (with Brian Kaylor), Baptizing America How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism
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    47 Min.
  • 194. Dangers of Faith in the Pentagon & AI in Faith
    Dec 11 2025

    This episode of Dangerous Dogma features a conversation between Word&Way Editor Brian Kaylor, Lutheran minister and journalist Angela Denker, and Disciples pastor and author Beau Underwood. The conversation includes consideration of U.S. strikes against Venezuelan boats, Pete Hegseth's Christian prayer services at the Pentagon, the use of AI in churches, and alarms about AI Christian music and books. You can watch a video version of the conversation here.

    Here are a few pieces mentioned in the episode:

    • Brian wrote a piece for A Public Witness about the prayer services at the Pentagon.
    • Ross Douthat of the New York Times wrote about Hegseth and Christian Nationalism.
    • People can now text with AI Jesus.
    • Christianity Today wrote about a hit AI Christian artist.
    • Brian created a video review of a Noah's ark children's book voiced by an AI Donald Trump.

    Also, check out the most recent books by the three panelists:

    • Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power
    • Angela Denker, Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood
    • Beau Underwood (with Brian Kaylor), Baptizing America How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism
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    48 Min.
  • 193. News Roundup: Elections, Government Shutdown, & Clergy Challenging ICE
    Nov 4 2025

    This episode of Dangerous Dogma features a conversation between Word&Way Editor Brian Kaylor, Lutheran minister and journalist Angela Denker, and Disciples pastor and author Beau Underwood. The conversation includes consideration of religious attacks in elections this week, impacts of the ongoing government shutdown on churches, and clergy protesting against ICE. Watch a video version of this latest conversation here.

    Here are a few articles related to some of what was discussed:

    • Angela interviewed two Minneapolis mayoral candidates: DeWayne Davis and Jazz Hampton.
    • Brian wrote about the New York City mayoral race
    • Brian reported on pastors assaulted while peacefully protesting ICE
    • Brian wrote about the Department of Homeland Security co-opting Bible verses

    Also, check out the most recent books by the three panelists:

    • Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power
    • Angela Denker, Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood
    • Beau Underwood (with Brian Kaylor), Baptizing America How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism
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    43 Min.
  • 192. Hannah Kardon, United Methodist Pastor Arrested During Anti-ICE Protest
    Oct 30 2025

    In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with Hannah Kardon, a United Methodist minister in the Chicago area. Kardon was violently arrested during a protest outside an ICE facility on Oct. 17. Video of the incident can be viewed here. Other issues discussed in this episode include ICE actions at churches, the legal pushback against the Trump administration by various denominations, and the misuse of Bible verses by the Department of Homeland Security. Watch a video version of this latest conversation here.

    Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winning e-newsletter A Public Witness that helps you make sense of faith, culture, and politics. And order the new book by Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power.

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    39 Min.
  • 191. William Stell on Evangelicals & Antigay Christianity
    Oct 15 2025

    In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with William Stell, a religious studies professor and author of the forthcoming book, Born Again Queer: A History of Evangelical Gay Activism and the Making of Antigay Christianity. Kaylor is also joined by guest cohost Jared Burkholder, scholar in residence at Moravian Theological Seminary. This is the third in a three-part series in partnership with Moravian exploring historical and contemporary issues of concerns involving evangelicals (following conversations with Randall Balmer in episode 189 and Angela Parker in episode 190). Other previous conversations mentioned in this episode are those with David Swartz in episode 180 and Isaac Sharp in episode 100. Watch a video version of this latest conversation here.

    Burkholder will be giving the annual Walter Vivian Moses Lecture on Oct. 29 at 4 p.m. (ET) at the Bahnson Center on the Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, Campus of Moravian Theological Seminary. It will also be livestreamed for free. Sign up to watch here.

    Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winning e-newsletter A Public Witness that helps you make sense of faith, culture, and politics. And preorder the forthcoming book by Brian Kaylor ,The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power.

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    57 Min.