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On this show, we challenge dangerous teachings found in various strands of Christianity while also taking seriously Jesus's own teachings that lead us into dangerous places. Hosted by Brian Kaylor, president & editor-in-chief of Word&Way.Word&Way Christentum Spiritualität
  • 198. American Christianity Divided in Responses to ICE
    Feb 4 2026

    This episode of Dangerous Dogma features a conversation between Word&Way Editor Brian Kaylor, Lutheran minister and journalist Angela Denker, and Disciples pastor and author Beau Underwood. The conversation includes discussion about ICE actions in Minneapolis, how many clergy are leading protests against ICE while others are supporting ICE, and new research worried about the loss of "purple" churches. You can watch a video version of the conversation here.

    Here are a few pieces related to the episode:

    • Brian wrote about two American Baptist congregations ministering in Minneapolis.
    • Angela mentioned a statement from the chaplain of the Minnesota Timberwolves.
    • Brian wrote about a pastor who gave a pro-ICE prayer.
    • Brian wrote about the protest at Cities Church in St. Paul.
    • Angela wrote at MS NOW about the church protest.
    • Angela mentioned a Substack piece by Stacey Patton about how a civil rights law is being twisted.
    • Brian and Beau wrote about how ICE is targeting churches.
    • Sarah Stankorb wrote at The New Republic about polarization in mainline Protestant churches.

    Also, check out the most recent books by the three panelists:

    • Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power
    • Angela Denker, Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood
    • Beau Underwood (with Brian Kaylor), Baptizing America How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism
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    58 Min.
  • 197. Anna Piela and Michael Woolf on Confronting Islamophobia in the Church
    Jan 30 2026

    In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with American Baptist ministers Anna Piela and Michael Woolf on Islamophobia, immigration, and how Christians can better engage with interfaith efforts. Anna and Michael are coauthors of the new book, Confronting Islamophobia in the Church: Liturgical Tools for Justice. Watch a video version of this conversation here.

    Here are a few pieces related to the episode:

    • Brian wrote about Michael's advocacy outside an ICE facility in Illinois
    • Michael wrote for Unsettling Advent about Advent in a time of soldiers in the streets
    • Brian recently testified against anti-Sharia law legislation in Missouri
    • Brian wrote about Franklin Graham preaching at the Pentagon

    Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winning e-newsletter A Public Witness that helps you make sense of faith, culture, and politics. And order the new book by Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power.

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    48 Min.
  • 196. Martha Bardwell on Faith Communities Responding to ICE in Minneapolis
    Jan 16 2026

    In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with Martha Bardwell, pastor of Our Saviour's Lutheran Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota, on how faith communities are responding to ICE violence in the Twin Cities and the ICE killing of Renee Good. Watch a video version of this latest conversation here.

    The episode includes a discussion on the misuse of Bible verses by the Department of Homeland Security. As this was being recorded, DHS released another propaganda video co-opting a Bible verse. Bardwell is among the faith leaders calling for an economic blackout on Jan. 23.

    Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winning e-newsletter A Public Witness that helps you make sense of faith, culture, and politics. And order the new book by Brian Kaylor, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power.

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    50 Min.
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