From all of us at Cloud Realities, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

Back in our December 2022 Christmas special, we explored the far reaches of reality, asking whether we live in a simulation and if that even matters. Now, we return to that question with fresh perspectives and new challenges…

In this last Cloud Realities podcast of 2025, Dave, Esmee and Rob return to the simulation with Anders Indset, philosopher, author, and long-time friend of the show, revisiting a question that’s been quietly running underneath everything we’ve discussed since 2022: If reality itself is information and what does that mean for being human?

TLDR:

00:58 – It’s Christmas!
08:32 – Major announcement and reflections on the Cloud Realities podcast journey
15:32 – Celebrating three big wins: B2B Marketing Awards (Best Content, Best Customer Retention) and The Drum (Best Creative Audio)
22:55 – Is there a next thing?
23:30 – Welcoming Anders Indset, who shares his vision for practical philosophy and the future of human/AI co-evolution
32:02 – Exploring the Quantum Economy and the Singularity Paradox
58:10 – Deep dive into the Simulation Hypothesis, revisiting the 2022 discussion and Rob is again confused...
01:27:45 – Anders enjoying Christmas in the Norwegian wilderness
01:29:40 – Edit point

Guest

Anders Indset: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/ or andersindset.com

Additional information: thequantumeconomy.com and tomorrowmensch.com

Hosts

Dave Chapmanger: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Gluhwein: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Snowmananahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Dr Mike van Der Buabbles: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapmanger: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Jingle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Snow: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

In this last episode of the special AI mini-series, we now explore the human side of transformation, where technology meets purpose and people remain at the center. From future jobs and critical thinking to working with C-level leaders, how human intervention and high-quality data drive success in an AI-powered world.

This week Dave, Esmee , Rob sit down with Johanna Hutchinson, CDO at BAE systems about why data matters, the rise of Sovereign AI, and the skills shaping the intelligence age.

TLDR

00:55 Introduction of Johanna Hutchinson

02:09 Explaining the State of AI mini-series with Craig

06:01 Conversation with Johanna

34:20 Weaving today’s data tapestries with AI

40:20 Going to a rave

Guest

Johanna Hutchinson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johanna-hutchinson-95b95568/

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

with co-host Craig Suckling: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigsuckling/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

AI is transforming software development—redefining roles, creativity, and community, while challenging developers to embrace ambiguity, orchestrate specialized agents, and stay human through empathy and curiosity. Will AI make developers more creative, or will we forget how the machine really works under the hood?

This week Dave, Esmee , Rob sit down with Scott Hanselman, VP Developer Community at Microsoft for a wildly energetic, deeply human, and brilliantly practical conversation about how AI is reshaping software development and what that means for creativity, careers, and all industries.

TLDR

00:30 – Scott Hanselman introduced as a special guest from Microsoft Ignite 2025.

02:16 – Scott discusses how AI is fundamentally redesigning all industries.

09:50 – Don’t anthropomorphize AI, I want the computer from Star Trek!

15:30 – Delegation: contrasting the roles of humans and agents.

18:30 – The importance of supporting early career growth and learning.

26:30 – Why specificity matters in AI and coding.

35:30 – Making AI delightful and fun.

45:30 – Always put humans first in AI development.

46:00 – Each morning I think about lunch.

Guest

Scott Hanselman: https://www.hanselman.com/
The Hanselminutes Podcast: https://www.hanselman.com/podcasts with over 1025 podcasts!

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini