We're a little late, but Happy 7th Anniversary to US! If you've been listening to us that long -WE LOVE YOU! If you're a new listener, we LOVE YOU, TOO! Thanks, y'all - we truly mean that.

This week, Kat dives into the case of Brenda Andrew, the only woman on death row in Oklahoma.

What began as a churchgoing suburban marriage ended in an affair, a bitter divorce and custody fight, and the fatal shooting of Rob Andrew in his own garage just before Thanksgiving 2001.

We examine the controversy surrounding Brenda’s trial and failed appeals, while keeping the focus where it belongs: on Rob Andrew, the father whose life was taken and whose children lost him forever.

Join us as we explore the dark side of humanity...with beer

References:

The Heartbreaking Andrew Family Murder - Robert & Brenda Andrew - True Crime Stories | Deep Dive: https://youtu.be/u67tz4ziaj4?si=j8o3hUq84ouc_scz

Her Website: https://www.savebrendaandrew.org

U.S. Supreme Court Opinion:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/23-6573_m647.pdf

FindLaw Case Summary:
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-supreme-court/23-6573.html

Death Penalty Information Center:
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-only-woman-on-oklahoma-death-row-confirming-admission-of-prejudicial-gendered-evidence-can-violate-due-process-rights

American University WCL (Amicus Advocacy):
https://www.american.edu/wcl/news-events/news/auwcl-professor-supports-amicus-advocacy-leading-to-death-row-case-reconsideration.cfm

Cornell Death Penalty Project:
https://dpw.lawschool.cornell.edu/advocacy/brenda-andrew-sex-shamed-to-death-in-oklahoma/

People Magazine:
https://people.com/death-row-inmate-convicted-killing-husband-claims-sex-shamed-trial-8778143

ABC News:
https://abcnews.com/Primetime/story?id=132093&page=1

KOCO:
https://www.koco.com/article/brenda-andrew-oklahoma-woman-death-row-loses-appeal/69993112

Murderpedia Summary:
https://murderpedia.org/female.A/a/andrew-brenda.htm

Rob Andrew Obituary:
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/oklahoman/name/rob-andrew-obituary?id=29449261

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They say twins have unbreakable bonds. Ones where they develop secret twin languages, intense connections and experiences, and so on. But what about twins that display erratic, completely psychotic behavior together? In this episode, Ashley discusses Ursula and Sabina Eriksson, identical twins from Sweden.

Two women stood in the median of one of the busiest highways in the country. Then, one after the other, they ran directly into moving traffic.

Resources:

1. https://grokipedia.com/page/Ursula_and_Sabina_Eriksson

2. https://womenandcrimepodcast.com/ursula-and-sabina-eriksson/

3. https://icantbelieveitsnonfiction.com/2017/08/09/ursula-and-sabina-eriksson/

4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_and_Sabina_Eriksson

5. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/disturbed-twins-eriksson-murder-m6-21576116

6. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/twins-ran-onto-m6-before-32237521

7. https://www.themirror.com/news/uk-news/uk-suicide-pact-twins-manslaughter-1551260

8. https://amhwrites.medium.com/the-twins-who-shared-psychosis-5edfa90cc900

9. https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-twins-who-ran-into-traffic-before-stabbing-a-man-to-death/

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• https://nomoredirectory.org/
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**Listener discretion advised. This episode discusses stalking, domestic violence, and intimate partner homicide.**

As January marks Stalking Awareness Month, Kat introduces us to Dominique “Nique” Leili - a devoted moom navigating a troubled marriage—& a victim of escalating control & surveillance that ultimately turned deadly.

In 2011, Dominique disappeared in Gwinnett County, Georgia. Months later, her remains were discovered in a wooded area, and suspicion quickly focused on her husband, Matthew Leili. What followed was a deeply unsettling case marked by recorded jailhouse phone calls, conflicting accounts from their daughters, years of legal appeals, and a defense that framed Dominique’s murder as a mystery—despite substantial evidence presented at trial.

In this episode, Kat takes us through the case & reminds us all that stalking is not a “lesser” offense. It is a documented predictor of intimate partner homicide. This is the hill Kat will die on, y'all! Grab a drink and join us as we explore the darker side of humanity - with beer!

References:

1. MUST LISTEN TO THIS! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-binge-cases-watching-you/id1525807626
2. FOLLOW HIM! https://www.instagram.com/thisisjonathanhirsch/
3. info on Stalking: https://www.stalkingawareness.org/
4. https://www.instagram.com/reels/DSLG-GSgdQs/
5. https://www.gwinnettcounty.com/newsandevents/NewsDetails?news=PolicePressReleases/Deceased%20female%20located%20in%20wooded%20area%20of%20Lawrenceville
6. https://www.gwinnettcounty.com/newsandevents/NewsDetails?news=PolicePressReleases/Husbaneili
7. https://law.justia.com/cases/georgia/supreme-court/2019/s19a0541.html
8. https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ga-supreme-court/2025673.html
9. https://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-man-wifes-murder-death-remains-mystery/story?id=37034937
10. https://abcnews.go.com/US/daughters-defend-father-trial-allegedly-killing-mother/story?id=36520163
11. https://www.facebook.com/datelinenbc/posts/listen-to-matts-jailhouse-phone-call-with-his-daughters/10156950732281420/
12. https://www.11alive.com/article/news/murdered-wife-speaks-to-jury-through-recorded-phone-calls/85-68783991
13. https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/jury-deliberating-trial-man-accused-murdering-wife/153636803/
14. https://thecinemaholic.com/where-are-nique-leilis-

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• https://rainn.org/news/resources-survivors-stalking-and-cyberstalking
• https://www.stalkingawareness.org/

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• NATIONWIDE: https://www.thehotline.org/get-help/domestic-violence-local-resources/
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• https://rainn.org/resources

INTERNATIONAL RESOURCES - YOU ARE NOT ALONE!

• https://nomoredirectory.org/
  • The NO MORE Global Directory is a first-of-its-kind, comprehensive international directory of domestic and sexual violence helplines, specialist support services, and resources for men, women, and those who identify as non-binary in almost every UN-recognized country and territory in the world.
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In this week's episode, Ashley discusses the abduction and murder of Amber Hagerman, a 9 year old child from Arlington, TX in 1996. Her case led to the creation of the AMBER Alert system as well as the national sex offenders registry list amongst many other positive law changes involving how we treat child abductions. We discuss some of the laws plus international variations of the AMBER alert system.

Amber's case is considered a cold case. If you have any information please contact the Arlington Police Department or Crime Stopper's anonymous hotline.

Resources:

1. https://www.fox4news.com/news/amber-hagerman-alert-anniversary

2. https://people.com/what-happened-to-amber-hagerman-11883708

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_alert

4. https://www.missingkids.org/blog/2021/still-searching-for-ambers-killer

5. https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/texas/amber-hagerman-amber-alert-system/269-f881cfac-8c55-4665-989c-97157bfa9def

6. https://www.fox7austin.com/news/amber-hagerman-murder-amber-alert-missing-in-texas

7. https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/iii674/extensive_write_up_the_murder_of_amber_hagerman/

8. https://amberalert.ojp.gov/news/active-AMBER-alerts

9. https://www.missingkids.org/gethelpnow/amber

10. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender_registries_in_the_United_States

11. https://www.fox13now.com/good-day-

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• https://rainn.org/resources

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• https://nomoredirectory.org/
  • The NO MORE Global Directory is a first-of-its-kind, comprehensive international directory of domestic and sexual violence helplines, specialist support services, and resources for men, women, and those who identify as non-binary in almost every UN-recognized country and territory in the world.
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OneTaste marketed itself as a sexual wellness company focused on women’s empowerment through a practice called orgasmic meditation. But, federal prosecutors say something far more troubling was happening.

In this episode, Kat breaks down the rise and fall of OneTaste and its founder, Nicole Daedone.

Content warning: This episode includes discussion of coercive control, sexual exploitation, trauma, & frequent references to female genitalia.

REFERENCES:

1. Empire of Orgasm - by Ellen Huet
2. Orgasm, inc. on Netflix
3. The Orgasm Cult - BBC Podcast
4. U.S. Department of Justice, Eastern District of New York. Founder of Sexual Wellness Company OneTaste and Former Head of Sales Convicted of Forced Labor.
5. Bloomberg Businessweek (June 18, 2018). The Dark Side of OneTaste, the Orgasmic Meditation Company.
6. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-01/onetaste-ceo-steps-down-after-claims-that-company-engaged-in-predatory-behavior
7. Bloomberg News (November 13, 2018). FBI Is Probing OneTaste, a Sexuality Wellness Company.
8. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-11-10/how-orgasmic-meditation-company-onetaste-left-many-women-feeling-violated
9. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/onetaste-founder-nicole-daedone-says-plans-testify-trial-rcna179947
10. Wikipedia. OneTaste.

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• NATIONWIDE: https://www.thehotline.org/get-help/domestic-violence-local-resources/
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FOR HELP WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT:

• https://rainn.org/resources

INTERNATIONAL RESOURCES - YOU ARE NOT ALONE!

• https://nomoredirectory.org/
  • The NO MORE Global Directory is a first-of-its-kind, comprehensive international directory of domestic and sexual violence helplines, specialist support services, and resources for men, women, and those who identify as non-binary in almost every UN-recognized country and territory in the world.
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We originally covered this story in our first season; however since our first season is no longer available, Ashley wanted to redo it and add in the newest updates.

Brian Shaffer went out with his friend drinking, he is seen entering the bar but never seen exiting. He has not been seen or head from since. In this episode, Ashley discusses the disappearance, the case and the many theories.

Resources:

1. https://people.com/what-happened-to-brian-shaffer-disappearance-11706304

2. https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/vicap/missing-persons/brian-shaffer

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Brian_Shaffer

4. https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2021/03/29/brian-shaffer-disappearance-photo-shows-how-osu-student-may-look-now/6995317002/

5. https://sites.gsu.edu/tanyabedi/final-analysisconclusion/

6. True Crime Garage- Brian Shaffer: Feb 14, 2016, Parts 1-6.

7. https://www.reddit.com/r/BrianShaffer/comments/1dzamdu/brian_shaffer_new_theories/

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• https://rainn.org/news/resources-survivors-stalking-and-cyberstalking
• https://www.stalkingawareness.org/

FOR HELP WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE:

• NATIONWIDE: https://www.thehotline.org/get-help/domestic-violence-local-resources/
• IN HOUSTON AREA: https://www.bayareaturningpoint.org/

FOR HELP WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT:

• https://rainn.org/resources

INTERNATIONAL RESOURCES - YOU ARE NOT ALONE!

• https://nomoredirectory.org/
  • The NO MORE Global Directory is a first-of-its-kind, comprehensive international directory of domestic and sexual violence helplines, specialist support services, and resources for men, women, and those who identify as non-binary in almost every UN-recognized country and territory in the world.
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It's time for Part 2 of Kat's deep dive into the monster that is Ed Gein.

References:

1. “Ed Gein.” Wikipedia – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein
2. “Ed Gein.” Britannica – biographical overview and case summary. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ed-Gein
3. “Real-Life Psycho Ed Gein Dies.” History.com ( https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/july-26/real-life-psycho-ed-gein-dies
4. Crime + Investigation Network (UK). “Ed Gein – The Butcher of Plainfield.” https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/ed-gein
5. A&E / Biography. “Ed Gein’s Childhood: The Butcher of Plainfield Fixated on His Domineering Mother.” https://www.aetv.com/articles/ed-geins-childhood-the-butcher-of-plainfield-fixated-on-his-domineering-mother
6. TIME Magazine. “Portrait of America’s Original Psycho Killer. https://time.com/3879490/ed-gein-portrait-of-americas-original-psycho-killer
7. Lawyer Monthly. “Ed Gein Timeline – True Story, Crimes, Trial & Legal Legacy.” https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2025/10/ed-gein-timeline-true-story-crimes-trial-legal-legacy
8. Harold Schechter. Deviant: The Shocking True Story of Ed Gein, the Original Psycho. Pocket Books, 1989
9. Radford University Serial Killer Database. “Ed Gein Case Summary (Psyc 405).” https://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Psyc%20405/serial%20killers/Gein%2C%20Ed.pdf
10. FBI Behavioral Science Unit archives (publicly released summaries)

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• https://rainn.org/news/resources-survivors-stalking-and-cyberstalking
• https://www.stalkingawareness.org/

FOR HELP WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE:

• NATIONWIDE: https://www.thehotline.org/get-help/domestic-violence-local-resources/
• IN HOUSTON AREA: https://www.bayareaturningpoint.org/

FOR HELP WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT:

• https://rainn.org/resources

INTERNATIONAL RESOURCES - YOU ARE NOT ALONE!

• https://nomoredirectory.org/
  • The NO MORE Global Directory is a first-of-its-kind, comprehensive international directory of domestic and sexual violence helplines, specialist support services, and resources for men, women, and those who identify as non-binary in almost every UN-recognized country and territory in the world.
  ...

In 1957, a missing-person call in small-town Wisconsin led police to a farmhouse that would redefine horror forever. What they found inside Ed Gein’s home shocked the nation — and inspired Psycho, The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, and The Silence of the Lambs. Kat takes you deep into the chilling true story behind “The Butcher of Plainfield” — a quiet, lonely man whose obsession with his mother and the dead blurred the line between grief and madness.

References:

1. “Ed Gein.” Wikipedia – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein
2. “Ed Gein.” Britannica – biographical overview and case summary. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ed-Gein
3. “Real-Life Psycho Ed Gein Dies.” History.com ( https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/july-26/real-life-psycho-ed-gein-dies
4. Crime + Investigation Network (UK). “Ed Gein – The Butcher of Plainfield.” https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/ed-gein
5. A&E / Biography. “Ed Gein’s Childhood: The Butcher of Plainfield Fixated on His Domineering Mother.” https://www.aetv.com/articles/ed-geins-childhood-the-butcher-of-plainfield-fixated-on-his-domineering-mother
6. TIME Magazine. “Portrait of America’s Original Psycho Killer. https://time.com/3879490/ed-gein-portrait-of-americas-original-psycho-killer
7. Lawyer Monthly. “Ed Gein Timeline – True Story, Crimes, Trial & Legal Legacy.” https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2025/10/ed-gein-timeline-true-story-crimes-trial-legal-legacy
8. Harold Schechter. Deviant: The Shocking True Story of Ed Gein, the Original Psycho. Pocket Book

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FOR HELP WITH STALKING OR CYBERSTALKING:

• https://rainn.org/news/resources-survivors-stalking-and-cyberstalking
• https://www.stalkingawareness.org/

FOR HELP WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE:

• NATIONWIDE: https://www.thehotline.org/get-help/domestic-violence-local-resources/
• IN HOUSTON AREA: https://www.bayareaturningpoint.org/

FOR HELP WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT:

• https://rainn.org/resources

INTERNATIONAL RESOURCES - YOU ARE NOT ALONE!

• https://nomoredirectory.org/
  • The NO MORE Global Directory is a first-of-its-kind, comprehensive international directory of domestic and sexual violence helplines, specialist support services, and resources for men, women, and those who identify as non-binary in almost every UN-recognized country and territory in the world.
  ...