From the BBC Radio 4 'Today' presenter, anchor of the hugely successful Americast podcast, a book about today’s America: the nation that returned Trump to the White House, that exists now and is emerging, either with him or without him in the future.

Justin Webb presents the argument that Trump is not all bad. That with the buffoonery and chaos there is also humour and drive. That in any case, in many areas Trump had the backing of a wide range of Americans, including many who did not particularly like the man himself. His second administration was in response to what came before. And also to social media, and circumstances no president had previously had to deal with. He made his opportunities and also surfed a wave. And while for him the wave may have broken, for America it is still rolling.

Trump did not get re-elected with a plan. He is as much an algorithm as a man, iteration built on iteration. So what got him elected? How should the Democrats respond? What happens next and what will it all mean for us?

'Few commentators have as deep an understanding of the forces shaping modern America as Justin Webb.' - Gerry Baker

'A wise and fascinating explanation of how we ended up in this place, and where we’re headed, by one of Britain's most consistently spot on journalists.' - Hadley Freeman

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