Michael Marshall and Cecil Cicirello break down Joe's September 2026 interview with David Grusch.

Topics covered: Grusch tells us about his work in government, how he uncovered a child trafficking ring inside a federal agency. They talk about a CIA officer with $40 million in gold bars, Iran-Contra and Havana Syndrome. These spend some time on a closed-door Senate meeting where Grusch says he learned people wanted to kill him. They talk about Trump's courage, Stephen Miller being a "fellow alpha," and why disclosure is definitely coming before 2028; dead aliens who look like beautiful Greek gods, seven-foot scaly gorilla reptilian aliens that killed U.S. soldiers and were then shot; tall grays, short grays, Nordics, and maybe insect people; telepathy as an alien countermeasure; an alien base the size of several city blocks on the ocean floor; and the threat that AI will reveal the truth before the government does. Then they get to ancient aliens: the Egyptian labyrinth, the Book of Enoch, the Book of Ezekiel, the Anunnaki, elongated Peruvian skulls, Leviticus as alien hygiene advice, and Watergate as a UFO cover-up. And he would provide you with proof, but he's not at liberty to divulge anything right now.

Clips used under fair use from JRE show #2560

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