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Creativity, Character & Community in the Church

What happens when a church has plenty of gifted people, but not enough structure, trust, or healthy community around the gift?

In Episode 4 of The Shepherd’s Sanctuary, Dr. Jevon Goode sits down with Robert Dickens Jr. for a practical conversation about creativity, character, community, and the role creatives play in the Church.

They discuss why creativity extends beyond Sunday morning, why the Church needs different expressions of God’s creativity, and what can happen when gifts, ideas, and people are operating without structure.

The conversation also gets honest about the relationship between pastors and creatives, including musicians, compensation, trust, safe ministry environments, integrity, and the importance of building community before reducing the relationship to a paycheck.

You’ll also hear why being gifted is not enough. Creativity still needs character, order, health, and the courage to bring ideas into reality.

If you’re a pastor, musician, worship leader, creative director, designer, administrator, or ministry creative, this conversation is for you.

The Shepherd’s Sanctuary


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