Why is Oliver Tree dressed like Shrek? Is it performance art or deeply earnest work? Are there any original ideas in the world? And what happens when you spend two years recording a record across seven continents and 80 countries ranging from Africa to China to Afghanistan. Oh and a year in Antarctica. We endeavour to explore all of what the heck Oliver Tree has been up to.

Plus the story behind his new album ‘Love You Madly, Hate You Badly,’ the pursuit of joy, falling off the internet, remixing in Iraq, redefining success, being elected a chief by the Maasai in Tanzania, where he wants his money to go when he dies and so much more.

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We’re thrilled to have Noah Kahan back in for a third time to discuss the double whammy of his new, fourth album ‘The Great Divide’ and his stunningly honest documentary ‘Out of Body’ (out now on Netflix) which charts this post-‘Stick Season’ period — the endless tours, the knuckling down to make this new record, and confronting not only himself in this new era, but also exploring the impact his success has had on his family.

The documentary becomes not just a mode of capture, but a tool of communication for him to really open up to his mom and dad, and also stare down some of his own demons, his body dysmorphia in particular. Much of this ultimately filters into ‘The Great Divide,’ an album steeped in his beloved home state Vermont, and his home life — his wife, friends, family. We talk about all this and so much more.

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Anna Cathcart joins us on the couch for the first time to discuss the latest season of ‘XO, Kitty’ and Dan is deeply excited, proving this series has resonance way beyond its target demo. We find out about Anna’s early years in the biz (‘Odd Squad,’ ‘Descendents 2’) and what it’s like to grow up in the public eye, the kind of pressures foisted upon young actors and how she’s negotiated that world and her own mental health. We also discuss what she’s lifted from set, going to college, aspirations for the future, and her deep desire to be challenged by her craft.

Plus one of the most awks interviews of her life — which happened to be with Zach — what she would like to happen in future seasons, and just how would she feel if the series didn’t get a season 4?

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