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We've Got To Talk

We've Got To Talk

Von: Nicole Fonarow and Jolene Conway
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Our story begins in the halls of the University of Iowa, go Hawks! It was there that two seemingly different paths intersected and a friendship blossomed. Despite our different upbringings—Jolene in little Pleasantville, Iowa, and me, Nicole, just across the Golden Gate Bridge in the bustling Bay Area—we became fast friends. And here we are, almost 40 years later, living in a world that often seems intent on drawing lines in the sand and choosing sides. So why "We've Got To Talk"? Because we truly believe that in this deeply divided society, the power of conversation can unite us. Our goal isn't to change each other's opinions, but to listen with curiosity, kindness, and empathy. And yes, to have a good time while doing it! We invite you to join us on this journey and bring your friends along. We might not have all the answers or any of them—but we promise honesty, empathy, and a lot of heart. We hope our conversations give you a fresh outlook or at least entertain you as you go about your day.Copyright 2026 Nicole Fonarow and Jolene Conway Politik & Regierungen Sozialwissenschaften
  • ICE Shooting in Minneapolis: Facts, Fear, and What We Owe Each Other
    Feb 4 2026

    Some weeks, the news doesn’t just feel heavy, it feels combustible. In this episode, Nicole (liberal) and Jolene (conservative) talk through the latest ICE shooting in Minneapolis and why stories like this instantly become a loyalty test: pick your team, pick your narrative, pick your villain… and move on.

    We slow the conversation down on purpose. We talk about what we know, what we don’t know yet, and how quickly public reactions harden into certainty before investigations have a chance to breathe. Because once a tragedy becomes a symbol, people stop caring about details. They care about the win.

    We also unpack the deeper reality beneath the headlines: immigration is debated as a concept, but lived as a constant stress response. Paperwork, deadlines, fear, and the feeling that one wrong turn could unravel a life. At the same time, communities are trying to make sense of real safety concerns without turning those fears into blanket suspicion of anyone who looks or sounds “foreign.”

    This isn’t about choosing between compassion and accountability. It’s about holding both and refusing to let grief, anger, or fear turn into dehumanisation. If the country feels brittle right now, it’s because we’ve stopped talking like humans. Where do we go from here?

    CHAPTER MARKERS:

    00:00 Introduction

    00:30 Discussing Minneapolis ICE Shooting

    00:47 Moral Certainty and Conversation

    03:02 Details of the Minneapolis Shooting

    04:30 Reactions and Political Commentary

    05:17 Tom Holman's Press Conference

    07:51 Complexities of Immigration Enforcement

    27:33 Sanctuary Cities and Legal Implications

    35:07 Sanctuary Cities and Trump's Immigration Policy

    35:44 Criminal Records Among Undocumented Migrants

    36:40 Concerns About Steven Miller's Influence

    40:33 Polarization and Lack of Dialogue

    45:43 The Immigrant Experience

    56:15 Moral Absolutism and Democracy

    01:04:29 Concluding Thoughts

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    Tom Homan News Conference,

    https://www.youtube.com/live/f0uZKCwGwtA?si=1GT03P1elneERpOL

    Good for the Soul:

    https://www.instagram.com/basicoptimism/reels/

    https://tapcancerout.org/

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    1 Std. und 6 Min.
  • Is America buying Greenland or not?
    Jan 28 2026

    Some headlines don’t feel real and yet here we are. In this episode, we unpack Trump floating the idea of America buying Greenland (yes, Greenland) and why a story that sounds like satire is actually tied to serious geopolitics, Arctic security, and America’s relationship with allies like Denmark.

    We take a look at why Greenland matters: its strategic location between North America and Europe, growing importance in the Arctic, and the military and economic interests that come with it. Even if the delivery sounds unserious, the underlying interest isn’t automatically crazy and that’s what makes this headline worth talking about.

    But we also talk about how leadership shows up on the world stage. Trump’s off-the-cuff style and public pressure tactics can turn diplomacy into a spectacle, and diplomacy doesn’t work when allies feel humiliated or treated like they’re negotiating a property sale. The result isn’t just awkward headlines, it’s distrust.

    And honestly, this isn’t only about Greenland. It’s about political fatigue: the constant “wait, is this real?” whiplash and what it does to public trust. Is strong leadership boldness, restraint, diplomacy, transparency, or some mix of all four? Drop your thoughts in the comments (keep it respectful).

    CHAPTER MARKERS:

    00:00 Introduction

    00:32 Discussing Greenland

    02:02 Trump's Controversial Actions

    05:33 Global Reactions and Media Frenzy

    06:54 Strategic Importance of Greenland

    07:49 Rare Earth Minerals and Geopolitical Moves

    08:40 Trump's Negotiation Tactics

    13:26 Debating US Foreign Policy

    25:41 Historical Context and World Order

    27:59 European Union's Reaction to Trump's Greenland Comments

    28:26 Global Reactions and Military Posturing

    29:28 Embarrassment on the World Stage

    29:53 The Future of Diplomacy

    30:22 The Role of Media and Public Perception

    30:30 Standing Up to Bullies

    32:16 Greenland's Importance and Reactions

    34:34 Media Coverage and Public Fatigue

    44:58 Final Thoughts

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    1. AP News (Greenland, U.S., Denmark, Trump, Vance, Rubio meeting): https://apnews.com/article/greenland-united-states-denmark-trump-vance-rubio-meeting-b10f5151008f1f18a788dc0751473c0e

    Good for the Soul
    1. Matter Neuroscience (Instagram): https://www.instagram.com/matterneuroscience/
    2. “The Emperor’s New Clothes” (Hans Christian Andersen): https://americanliterature.com/author/hans-christian-andersen/short-story/the-emperors-new-clothes

    LINKS:

    On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/

    On YouTube:

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    47 Min.
  • U.S. Surrogacy and Birthright Citizenship: When Money Writes the Rules
    Jan 21 2026

    Surrogacy can be a deeply meaningful path to parenthood and it can also be a billion-dollar industry. In this episode, we unpack what happens when “building a family” starts looking like a marketplace, and who actually gets protected when money, contracts, and power enter something as serious as pregnancy and birth.

    We talk about why the U.S. has become a major global destination for surrogacy, and how inconsistent, state-by-state rules can create a system where the wealthy get options and the vulnerable take on the risk. When an industry grows faster than the guardrails, it’s not just messy, it can become exploitative.

    We also dig into the 14th Amendment and birthright citizenship, and the uncomfortable question it raises: what happens when a right designed to protect the vulnerable becomes a tool the powerful can leverage? This isn’t about demonising parents or children - it’s about whether citizenship and reproduction are being treated like commodities.

    Finally, we ask what regulation could look like without being “anti-family”: stronger protections for surrogates, clearer standards that prioritise the well-being of the child, and real accountability when things go wrong. If you’re pro-surrogacy, anti-surrogacy, or somewhere in the middle, we hope this episode helps you ask better questions and keeps the conversation honest.

    CHAPTER MARKERS:

    00:00 Introduction

    00:29 Billionaires and US Surrogacy

    00:49 The MO News Podcast and Initial Reactions

    02:47 Understanding the 14th Amendment and Birthright Citizenship

    04:40 The Surrogacy Industry: Agencies and Regulations

    05:20 International Billionaires and Surrogacy

    06:40 Ethical and Social Implications

    08:17 Legal and Regulatory Challenges

    10:16 Personal Stories and Opinions

    11:34 The Role of Money and Power

    12:59 Conservative and Liberal Perspectives

    21:36 Potential Solutions and Legislation

    26:07 Peter Thiel's IVF Agencies in Southeast Asia

    26:24 Religious Views and Surrogacy Ethics

    27:20 Surrogacy Laws and the 14th Amendment

    28:11 Protecting Surrogates and Babies

    30:47 Bipartisan Efforts for Surrogacy Regulation

    33:52 Global Surrogacy Practices and US Regulations

    36:47 The Future of Surrogacy and Legal Recourse

    41:22 Call to Action: Advocating for Surrogacy Laws

    45:10 Good for the Soul: Kindness Army

    46:31 Would You Rather: Surrogacy and Citizenship

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    Instagram Reel: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSWnB_xjRZc/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

    1. Chinese Billionaires, Surrogacy, Pregnancy: https://www.wsj.com/us-news/chinese-billionaires-surrogacy-pregnancy-7fdfc0c3?reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
    2. What to Know: Surrogacy + China + Billionaires:
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    52 Min.
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