This episode is one of those moments that proves nothing ever goes exactly as planned. But sometimes that's exactly how things turn out for the best. Today's conversation was supposed to be smooth sailing, but we had some technical difficulties during this interview that it cut into our conversation. But we're not here to dwell on the glitches. Instead, we're here to bring you a real, raw conversation with two incredible individuals who have both served in the military and are still living with purpose after the uniform comes off. So with little a little bit of a bumpy start, I'm excited to sit down with doc, Chris Aliano and Todd Neibauer. Uh, two men I have deep respect for and close connections with.

I want to start today by talking about something that's close to my heart, something that matters beyond business or personal achievements. It's about fighting a battle that no one else can see. My friends and I have lost too many Marines to suicide men who were strong, driven and capable, but who in their darkest moments thought there was no way out. Today's episode is about light in the darkness. It's about people who've lived through hard times and are now writing to remind others you are not alone. Welcome to earned Not Given. This show is about discipline, work, and legacy. But today it's about healing, community, and staying alive. I'm your host, Wesley Warner, Marine Corps veteran, business owner, husband and father. Today's episode is something special. I'm joined by Jason and Angela White, the co-founders of writing twenty two in twenty two. It's a nonprofit organization dedicated to raising awareness about veteran suicide, and it's providing peer support to veterans and their families. They've been on the front lines of this issue for years, taking their own experiences, turning that into a mission of saving lives. Together, they're writing for those who feel like they can't go on and reminding them they're not alone.

Nobody ever went broke because they were disciplined. But a lot of men are stuck, stressed and broke because they're trying to be liked. This episode is why being the nice guy is killing your business, and why men who avoid conflict, they don't build anything that lasts.