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In this episode, I’m joined by Julie Jancius, host of the Angels and Awakening podcast, for a heartfelt conversation about faith, divine connection, and spiritual evolution. Julie shares her personal journey of growing up within the Catholic tradition and finding her own intimate relationship with the divine beyond religious structure.

Together, we reflect on how miracles are often quieter than we expect, how they unfold through presence and openness, and how we can soften our resistance to receive what is already trying to reach us. This conversation isn’t about striving or proving anything, but about remembering, listening, and allowing.

If you’ve ever wondered whether miracles are reserved for a select few, or if they can exist within ordinary moments, this episode offers a gentle reframe and an invitation to see your life through a more spacious, trusting lens.

Here is the link to connect with Julie and her beautiful offerings & click here to connect to her podcast over on Spotify or simply search "Angels and Awakening" on your podcast app and you'll find it.

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In this episode of Unconditioning Love, we wrap up the Tangled Up in Twos mini-series, where we have been exploring women’s experiences in the Two by Two church and how leaving has transformed their relationship with identity and self-expression.

Yvette Hughes shares her journey of embracing her naturally curly hair within a culture of conformity. Growing up in South Africa’s coloured community during Apartheid, Yvette faced pressure to straighten her hair to fit societal and religious expectations. Her story highlights the beauty of self-acceptance, the quiet rebellion/beauty of staying true to herself, and the freedom she’s found since leaving the church.

Thank you, Yvette, for sharing your beautiful story with us.

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Unconditioning Love – Tangled Up in Twos (Episode 3)

In this episode of Tangled Up in Twos, we delve into an excerpt from Cherie Kropp’s life story and explore the profound impact of hair, traditions, and questioning authority within the Two by Two fellowship.

Cherie’s poignant reflections reveal the tension between blind adherence to tradition and the courage to choose compassion and truth over rigidity. From navigating tender-headed hair battles to questioning the theological basis of women’s roles and appearances, Cherie shares how she sought clarity and truth through study and logic, despite resistance.

We discuss themes of:
•Breaking free from guilt and shame perpetuated by man-made traditions.
•The power of questioning practices and beliefs that do not align with love or scripture.
•Choosing compassion over compliance, especially in parenting.
•The emotional toll of navigating fallacious reasoning and the pursuit of Biblical truth.

Cherie’s courage to challenge the status quo, seek answers, and forge a path of authenticity provides insight for anyone navigating the complexities of leaving high-control systems.

Read the full excerpt from Cherie Kropp’s life story: Kropp – Cherie Berry.

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