The Copper State Marching Podcast is back for Season 5! Hosts Martin Hebda and Matt Kozacek sit down with Luke Gall, co-founder of Ultimate Drill Book (UDB), to explore how technology is transforming the marching arts.

From its humble beginnings as a solution for organizing drill books to becoming an essential tool used by marching bands and drum corps around the world, UDB has changed the way students learn drill, directors run rehearsals, and staffs communicate. Luke shares the story behind UDB’s creation, how his own experiences in marching band and drum corps inspired its development, and why making the learning process easier ultimately helps more students stay involved in music.

The conversation also dives into ARC, the new ecosystem connecting UDB with powerful tools like GEO for attendance and scheduling, Beam for digital sheet music, and StrideTV for arts-focused educational and streaming content. Learn how these platforms work together to streamline communication, improve rehearsal efficiency, and give educators more time to focus on teaching.

Whether you're a director considering UDB for the first time, a veteran user looking to maximize its features, or simply interested in the future of music education technology, this episode is packed with practical insights, rehearsal strategies, and exciting previews of what’s coming next.