• Ep. 65 Ellie Chapman, Alistair McLeod, Stephen Mitchell
    Oct 14 2025

    Jon and Steve chat with three founders about the real-world impact of AI on creativity, leadership, and building products:


    • Ellie Chapman – Founder, Lim (live visualisation & facilitation)

    • Alistair McLeod – Founder, Gray Fox Consulting (fractional CIO/CTO)

    • Stephen “Mitch” Mitchell – Founder & CEO, SQCDP.co.uk (factory digitisation)



    In this episode:


    • How AI is reshaping creative work—without replacing human connection

    • Leaders setting guardrails: ethics, transparency, and “AI red lines”

    • Using AI to boost productivity (20–30%?) vs. risking sameness and shortcuts

    • Hallucinations, fact-checking, and why value should come before tech

    • Startups vs. enterprises: who adapts faster?

    • Data-driven manufacturing, better meetings, and the premium on human facilitation



    Takeaways:

    Curiosity beats fear, quality control matters, and the future belongs to teams that blend human judgment with smart automation.


    Follow the show for more candid conversations with founders and operators.

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    57 Min.
  • Ep. 64 Mark Renney, Billy Webber & Jarek Rosinski
    Sep 10 2025

    In this episode, Jon and Steve are joined by three North East founders who’ve each taken very different paths to building a business:


    💻 Mark Renney – Managing Director, Wubbleyou

    🧠 Billy Webber – CEO, XR Therapeutics

    ⚙️ Jarek Rosinski – Founder, Transmission Dynamics


    Together, they share candid stories about the highs, lows, and lessons of entrepreneurship – from turning university spinouts into thriving companies, to weathering setbacks and learning the value of resilience along the way.


    We discuss:

    • The defining moments that sparked their ventures

    • Why resilience is more than just a buzzword

    • Surviving setbacks and using them as fuel

    • Balancing vision with day-to-day reality

    • The advice they’d give their younger founder selves


    This episode is an honest reminder that behind every business is a story of risk, resilience, and relentless determination.



    🎧 Two Pints of Lager and a Spreadsheet is Blu Sky’s podcast about the real stuff behind running a business — hosted by co-founders Jon Dudgeon and Steve Robinson.


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    54 Min.
  • Ep. 63 Sam Spoors, Di Gates & Trevor Norman
    Aug 12 2025

    In this episode of Two Pints of Lager and a Spreadsheet, Jon and Steve are joined by three leaders who know what it takes to build – and keep – a thriving team:


    👥 Sam Spoors – Founder, Talentheads

    🔗 Di Gates – Founder, Connection Heroes

    💡 Trevor Norman – Founder, Tribero


    They get honest about why engagement levels have been flat for years and explore what it will really take to change that. From outdated benefit packages to the demands of hybrid working, the conversation challenges assumptions and pushes leaders to think differently.


    We discuss:

    • Why many benefits packages are no longer fit for purpose

    • The danger of assuming you know what your team wants

    • Why leaders must get out from behind the desk

    • The role of AI and digital tools in modern teams

    • How trust and vulnerability build thriving workplaces


    If you lead a team – or want to – this episode is packed with practical insights and candid advice on creating an environment where people perform, grow, and stay.



    🎧 Two Pints of Lager and a Spreadsheet is Blu Sky’s podcast about the real stuff behind running a business, hosted by co-founders Jon Dudgeon and Steve Robinson.


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    58 Min.
  • Ep. 62 Alasdair Greig, Lizzie Withington & Julie Cuthbertson discuss funding the future
    Jul 10 2025

    In this episode, Jon and Steve are joined by three people working across investment, education, and business support — all with a front-row seat to the founder journey:


    💼 Alasdair Greig – Director, North Star Ventures

    🏛️ Lizzie Withington – Head of Enterprise, Newcastle University

    📈 Julie Cuthbertson – Head of Client Delivery, UMi


    Together, they explore what founders really need – beyond just capital and guidance. The conversation covers brutal honesty, emotional weight, and the power of collaborative support.


    We discuss:

    • The unspoken pressures of leadership and expectation

    • What makes advice actually helpful (and what doesn’t)

    • Why founders need space to be honest – and heard

    • The gaps between what founders say and what they really feel

    • Building trust, not just tick-box support


    It’s an unfiltered conversation that brings fresh insight into how we can build better businesses by building better ecosystems.



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    55 Min.
  • Ep. 61 Ellen Hedley, David Broom, Rachel McBryde on the importance of storytelling
    Jun 11 2025

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    In this episode, Jon and Steve are joined by three North East founders who believe storytelling is more than marketing — it’s how we make sense of who we are and what we’re building:

    📖 David Broom – Founder of B7

    🎨 Ellen Hedley – Co-Founder of Vida Creative

    📣 Rachel McBryde – Founder of McBryde & Co


    Together, they explore how the stories we tell — and don’t tell — shape our confidence, decisions, and long-term success.


    We discuss:

    • The moments that give us permission to begin

    • Why vulnerability builds credibility

    • Building businesses later in life (and why that’s powerful)

    • The pressure to appear polished — and how to resist it

    • How storytelling fuels culture, connection, and clarity


    This is a conversation for anyone who’s ever questioned if their story is worth telling. (Spoiler: it is.)



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    58 Min.
  • Ep. 60 Adrian O'Connell, Gary Smith, Nick Gray, Breaking Down Tax Advice Myths
    May 13 2025

    🎙️ Two Pints of Lager and a SpreadsheetIn this episode, Jon and Steven are joined by three of the North East’s finest minds in tax: Adrian O'Connell, Gary Smith and Nick Gray.Together, they unpack the myths around tax advice, explain why you can’t afford to DIY your tax planning, and give some home truths about how bad decisions—or no decisions—can impact your exit valuation.👥 They cover: • Why great tax advice isn’t just about saving money • The difference between tax compliance and proactive planning • Why pensions and SIPP strategies aren’t just for retirement • What HMRC’s current focus means for R&D claims and inheritance tax • How changes to Business Asset Disposal Relief and CGT are impacting founders • The importance of getting the right advice at the right time—especially at the start🎯 This is a must-listen for startup founders, growth-focused business owners, and anyone thinking about an exit or fundraising.



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    58 Min.
  • Ep. 59 Clare Blunt, Sarah Thackray & Mandy Barker on Purpose, Profit & Building A Better Business
    Apr 17 2025

    In this episode of Two Pints of Lager and a Spreadsheet, Jon and Steve are joined by three powerhouse women from the North East business scene:

    💚 Clare Blunt – Founder of Venture Zero

    🌍 Sarah Thackray – Co-Founder of BeaconHouse Events

    ♻️ Mandy Barker – Founder & Creative Director of Sail Creative


    From climate anxiety to cultural shifts, this is a conversation that goes far beyond balance sheets. The group talk openly about what it means to lead with purpose, the messy middle of business ownership, and the strength it takes to challenge the norm.


    We discuss:

    • Why purpose-led business isn’t just a trend – it’s the future

    • How to create real impact in your industry

    • Balancing passion with profit

    • Loneliness in leadership and imposter syndrome

    • The hidden pressure of hustle culture


    With real talk, plenty of laughs and a few uncomfortable truths, this episode is a must-listen for anyone building something that matters.



    🎙️ Two Pints of Lager and a Spreadsheet is Blu Sky’s podcast bringing together founders, doers, and big thinkers for honest conversations over a pint. It’s not about jargon – it’s about what really matters in business.


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    49 Min.
  • Ep. 58 Gill Hunter, Dave Gibson, Elaine Stroud - What we've learned running a podcast
    Mar 12 2025

    🎙️ Welcome to a brand-new season of Two Pints of Lager and A Spreadsheet!


    In this episode, we’re joined by Gill Hunter (Square One Law), Elaine Stroud (The Entrepreneurs Forum), and Dave Gibson (Blu Sky Co-Founder & Chairman) as we dive into the world of business podcasting.


    We explore:

    🔹 What they’ve learned from starting and running their own podcasts

    🔹 The biggest surprises and challenges along the way

    🔹 The value of podcasting as a tool for storytelling, networking, and learning

    🔹 Their favourite moments (and what they wish they knew before starting)


    Whether you’re thinking about starting a podcast or just love hearing behind-the-scenes insights from business leaders, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways.


    🎧 Listen now to hear the lessons from Two Pints of Lager and A Spreadsheet, Fear Less, Do More, and A Cast of Entrepreneurs!

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    44 Min.