In this episode of the Waypoint Better Podcast, Joe Bogdan sits down with Dr. Ryan Gottfredson to explore the difference between doing better and becoming better. Dr. Gottfredson explains why many leaders plateau despite gaining more skills and experience, emphasizing that real growth requires developing the “Being Side” — the internal mindsets and capacities that shape how we think, respond, and lead under pressure.

Drawing from his book Becoming Better: The Groundbreaking Science of Personal Transformation, the conversation highlights vertical development, awareness, and how pressure can serve as a catalyst for lasting change. Learn more about the book at:
https://ryangottfredson.com/books/becoming-better/

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