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The Wealth Transfer Podcast

The Wealth Transfer Podcast

Von: Matt Templeton
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 As much as 84 Trillion dollars worth of US assets - wealth - will transfer to younger generations over the next 20 years, but the received value of those assets may be significantly less. Whether its taxes, poor management, or just plain moth and rust, estate values are affected by unforeseen threats. On the wealth transfer podcast, we examine and breakdown the best strategies for leaving a financial legacy to the next generation. We look at accessible strategies for the every day man and advanced planning for the ultrawealthy. We talk to advisors, attorneys, planners, and prognosticators to dig up how you can protect your estate and have the most for future generations.Copyright 2025 All rights reserved. Ökonomie
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  • How Business Valuation Impacts Estate Planning, Wealth Transfer, and Taxes | Bob Bridges

    How Business Valuation Impacts Estate Planning, Wealth Transfer, and Taxes | Bob Bridges
    Jan 20 2026
    In this episode, Matt Templeton is joined by Bob Bridges, Principal at VALUE Incorporated, for a deep dive into how business valuations actually work—and why they are foundational to estate planning, wealth transfer, charitable giving, and exit strategy decisions. Bob brings more than 20 years of experience valuing closely held businesses, partnerships, and complex assets for estate planning, mergers and acquisitions, litigation, and tax court matters. He explains why a business does not have just one value, how different valuation standards apply depending on the goal, and how discounts for lack of control and marketability are used—sometimes saving families millions when done correctly. The conversation also explores real IRS and tax court cases, common mistakes business owners make when transferring or gifting business interests, and why early coordination between valuation experts, estate planning attorneys, CPAs, and financial advisors is critical. This episode is particularly relevant for business owners whose net worth is tied up in a closely held company, families planning generational wealth transfer, and advisors working with high-net-worth clients. Show Notes & Timestamps Guest: Bob Bridges, CFA, CVA Principal, VALUE Incorporated 00:00 – Introduction Why business valuation matters in estate and wealth transfer planning. 01:00 – What Business Valuation Really Involves The real work behind valuing closely held businesses. 02:30 – Why Business Owners Need Valuations Selling, gifting, estate planning, litigation, and proactive planning. 04:00 – The Different Levels of Business Value Financial control value, marketable minority interest, non-marketable minority interest, and synergistic value. 06:30 – How Valuation Discounts Work Discounts for lack of control and lack of marketability explained. 08:30 – Valuation for Planning vs. Valuation for Sale Why the purpose of the valuation changes the approach. 10:30 – Conflicting Goals: High vs. Low Valuations Charitable gifting, estate planning, and sale considerations. 12:00 – Attorney-Client Privilege and Valuation Strategy Why estate planning attorneys often engage valuation experts directly. 14:30 – Common Estate Planning Mistakes Family Limited Partnerships that aren’t treated like real businesses. 16:30 – Preparing a Business for Sale Why management depth and employee value matter. 18:30 – Employee Value as a Hidden Asset How workforce stability contributes to enterprise value. 20:30 – Deals That Fall Apart Lessons from failed mergers, earn-outs, and poor due diligence. 22:30 – IRS Case: Donor-Advised Fund Mistakes How poor coordination led to lost charitable deductions. 25:00 – IRS Case: Power of Attorney and Control Issues Why control matters more than paperwork. 27:30 – How Legitimate Valuation Discounts Are Earned Ownership structure and control considerations. 30:00 – Family Limited Partnership Best Practices What strong FLPs do right—and where many fail. 33:00 – When Valuation Discounts Should Not Be Used Step-up basis considerations below the estate tax threshold. 35:00 – Growth, Inflation, and Estate Strategy Why growing assets are often moved outside the estate early. 37:00 – Spousal Lifetime Access Trusts (SLATs) How SLATs work in modern wealth transfer planning. 40:00 – Trust & IRS Litigation Insights from recent tax court cases. 42:30 – Building the Right Advisory Team Why valuation experts are tools—not quarterbacks. 45:00 – Final Advice for Business Owners Plan early, trust your advisors, and avoid emotional decisions. About the Guest Bob Bridges is a Principal with VALUE Incorporated and has more than 20 years of experience providing business valuation, economic analysis, and litigation support. His work spans estate and gift planning, mergers and acquisitions, charitable giving, and tax court disputes. Bob holds the Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) and Certified Valuation Analyst (CVA) designations and currently serves as President of the Estate Planning Council of North Texas. Connect with Bob 📧 https://www.valueinc.com About the Host Matt Templeton is a Real Estate Planner and founder of Templeton Real Estate Group. He helps families and business owners navigate complex real estate and planning decisions with clarity and confidence. Through The Wealth Transfer Podcast, Matt interviews professionals who help protect, grow, and transition wealth across generations. Reach Out to Matt & the Team 📧 matt@templeton.realestate 📞 972-677-3991 If you have questions about real estate, planning, or need introductions to trusted professionals who assist with wealth preservation, growth, and transfer, Matt and his team are always happy to help.
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    29 Min.
  • A Better Way to Exit Your Business: ESOPs, Tax Strategy & Legacy Planning | Luke Britt

    A Better Way to Exit Your Business: ESOPs, Tax Strategy & Legacy Planning | Luke Britt
    Dec 16 2025
    Planning the future of your business isn’t just about selling at the right time — it’s about protecting your life’s work, aligning your advisors, reducing risk, and setting your family up for multi-generational success. In this episode, Matt sits down with Luke Britt, CLU®, RICP®, Practice Director of Advanced Planning at Level Four Financial, where he serves ultra-high-net-worth families and business owners with integrated estate planning, business succession strategy, and transition planning. Luke advises on complex tax structures, ESOPs, legacy planning, and the art of preparing a business years before an exit becomes visible. Together, Matt and Luke unpack: 💼 Business Exit Strategy Why waiting is the #1 mistake owners make before an exit How to de-risk a business to increase valuation What buyers look for in clean data and organized financials The four must-have advisors for any successful transition 🏛️ ESOPs & Advanced Options When an ESOP is the right path for selling to employees Why ESOPs preserve culture, retain talent, and build long-term stability EBITDA thresholds and organizational requirements for ESOP viability 🏠 Integrated Estate & Legacy Planning How integrated planning aligns the attorney, CPA, financial advisor & business consultant Why “spoiling kids” is often a myth — and how values-based planning prevents it What wealthy parents should transfer besides money How to think in 100-year arcs when building your family mission Luke also shares insights into: Private credit, real estate mixes, and how UHNW families think about allocation The mindset shift from “building a business” to “building a family enterprise” How to structure trustees, governance, and long-range stewardship Whether you’re five years from selling your business — or unsure if you ever want to — this episode will reshape how you think about wealth, purpose, and the transition ahead. 👤 Guest: Luke Britt, CLU®, RICP® Practice Director – Advanced Planning & Business Solutions Level Four Financial | CRI Advisors 📍 Dallas, TX 🌐 www.levelfourgroup.com 📧 lbritt@levelfourfinancial.com 📞 972.284.5481 👋 Connect With Matt Templeton Real Estate Planner | Wealth Transfer Strategist Founder, Templeton Real Estate Group If you need trusted introductions to attorneys, CPAs, financial advisors, 1031 experts, or estate professionals — reach out anytime. 📧 matt@templeton.realestate 📞 972-677-3991 We guide families through life’s biggest real estate transitions. 🕒 SHOW NOTES + TIMESTAMPS 00:00 — Introduction Why business planning and legacy are inseparable. Luke’s role advising families and business owners. 01:00 — What Luke Does The two sides of his practice: • Business advisory • Advanced integrated estate planning How they work together to prepare a business years before an exit. 02:00 — The Tax Nerd + Pastoral Counselor Why technical expertise isn’t enough — and why legacy conversations matter. 03:00 — Preparing the Family, Not Just the Plan Why “spoiling kids” is a myth when families articulate values. How healthy families prepare heirs emotionally and relationally. 05:30 — How Business Advisory Works Data gathering → financial modeling → de-risking → exit path selection. Why business financials are often the greatest barrier to valuation. 08:00 — ESOPs Explained Simply What they are, who they’re for, and why culture-driven owners choose them. Why ESOPs aren’t ideal if you want maximum cash at close. 11:00 — Cashflow, Taxes & Seller Financing in ESOPs Why delayed liquidity can actually be a tax advantage. Case study from New Mexico. 12:00 — Who Qualifies for an ESOP? EBITDA thresholds, employee count, and cultural readiness. 14:00 — What Is Integrated Estate Planning? Why the attorney, CPA, wealth advisor & insurance strategist must be aligned. The problem with “one advisor who claims to do everything.” 15:30 — Real Family Horror Stories When poor advisor coordination leads to litigation and bad outcomes. 18:00 — Portfolio Composition of UHNW Families Private equity, hard assets, real estate, private credit, and illiquidity tolerance. 21:00 — Building a Family Investment Office Why many entrepreneurs create in-house underwriting & investment review systems. 23:00 — Avoiding “Noisy Assets” The shift from chasing returns to preserving wealth post-exit. Kevin O’Leary’s principle: “You’ve already won the game — don’t lose it.” 25:00 — First Steps in Exit Planning The necessity of data cleanup & quality financials. Why reviewed financials or QofE reports matter. 27:00 — Don’t Wait Why 95% of business owners regret their exit — and how to be in the 5% who don’t. 28:00 — Who Needs to Be on the Advisory Team Exit planner, wealth advisor, CPA, estate attorney, business attorney, and more. The coordinating role that makes or breaks ...
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    37 Min.
  • How to Avoid Trust Disasters: Corporate Trustees, Family Conflict, & Smarter Estate Planning ft. Sarah Lashua

    How to Avoid Trust Disasters: Corporate Trustees, Family Conflict, & Smarter Estate Planning ft. Sarah Lashua
    Dec 2 2025
    Today on The Wealth Transfer Podcast, Matt Templeton sits down with trust and estate administrator Sarah Lashua (American National Bank & Trust) to unpack one of the most overlooked — and most emotionally charged — areas of wealth transfer: what really happens after you’re gone. If you’ve ever wondered how to keep your kids from fighting, how to structure your estate so it's actually easy to administer, or why corporate trustees exist (and why they often save families from chaos), this episode is full of essential insights. Sarah brings over seven years of trust administration experience, a tax background, and a legal perspective to show us the pitfalls she sees every day — pot trusts gone wrong, illiquid real estate causing gridlock, beneficiary disputes, rigid documents, unclear responsibilities, and the shocking emotional realities that surface after a parent or grandparent passes away. She also dives into practical tools that most families never get told about: • When a corporate trustee becomes a MUST, not a luxury • How to design trusts that don’t destroy family relationships • Why liquidity matters more than most people realize • Charitable remainder trusts (CRTs) as tax-saving, legacy-building vehicles • Using donor-advised funds wisely • How inherited IRAs create massive, unexpected tax burdens • And the emotional side of estate cleanouts — “your stuff is not your legacy” This episode blends expert education with real human stories, giving families a clearer path to building, protecting, and transferring their wealth without unnecessary strain, conflict, or cost. 📞 Connect with Today’s Guest — Sarah Lashua Website/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlashua/ Phone: 940-310-6922 Email: sarah.lashua@amnat.com Bio: Sarah has been a trust and estate administrator for more than seven years. Prior to working in banking, she worked in public accounting with a focus on tax compliance. She enjoys combining her tax and legal background to help clients navigate the complexities of trust and estate administration. When she isn’t working, Sarah is supervised by her two golden retrievers. 🏠 About Your Host — Matt Templeton Matt Templeton is a Real Estate Planner, long-time real estate expert, and the founder of Templeton Real Estate Group, serving clients across DFW, TX and Albuquerque, NM. Matt helps families strategically build, preserve, and transfer wealth through smarter real estate decisions — especially when navigating inheritance, senior transitions, trust complications, and estate planning. Matt collaborates with attorneys, CPAs, trust officers, and financial advisors to give clients the full team they need to protect and steward their assets across generations. 👉 If you need referrals, guidance, or help navigating your own wealth-transfer or real-estate planning situation, reach out anytime. Contact Matt: 📧 matt@templeton.realestate 📞 972-677-3991 📘 Show Notes & Key Topics 00:00 — Introduction to Sarah & the Role of Corporate Trustees What a trust officer actually does, and why naming family members as trustees often creates emotional, legal, and financial problems. 02:00 — The Hidden Liability of Being a Trustee How naming your child, sibling, or spouse as trustee changes family dynamics — and exposes them to personal legal risk. 03:00 — What Corporate Trustees Do Daily Distribution requests, monthly allowances, document reviews, ongoing communication, and helping families navigate needs. 05:00 — Privacy, Money, & Awkward Conversations Why trustees often must examine beneficiaries’ outside income and assets — and why this can be uncomfortable. 06:00 — The #1 Trust Structure to Avoid: Pot Trusts Why pot trusts often explode with sibling rivalry, conflict, and impossible administration requirements. 08:00 — Flexibility in Documents: Why It Matters How rigid estate documents trap trustees, beneficiaries, and families — and when courts must step in. 10:00 — What Makes a Trust Too Small or Too Large for Corporate Trustees Minimums, ideal sizes, and when combining trusts is the best solution. 11:00 — Red Flags When Reviewing Trusts or Estates Liquidity issues, toxic assets, land, mineral interests, and difficult beneficiaries. What makes a trust too complicated to accept. 13:00 — Fiduciary Duty: What Most People Don’t Understand Why self-dealing, bad record-keeping, and “favoritism” create lawsuits and family division. 15:00 — How Sibling Rivalry Ruins Inheritances Real-world dynamics: locked gates, unmaintained property, differing intentions for land, and multi-heir gridlock. 16:00 — Structuring Real Estate Inside an Estate or Trust Why real estate is the #1 source of inheritance conflict and how to plan better on the front end. 21:00 — Case Study: Big Land + Many Beneficiaries Why large families with large assets often face inevitable conflict — and how to build escape routes into your plan. 23:...
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    51 Min.
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