In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa revisit a topic that sits at the heart of every meaningful relationship: repair. Rather than striving for perfection or trying to get it right all the time, they explore why the willingness to notice harm, take responsibility, and come back into connection matters more. Drawing from relationship research, parenting and caregiving realities, and their own lived experience, they talk about why rupture is inevitable, why repair is often uncomfortable, and how repair builds trust over time — with others and with ourselves. This conversation invites listeners to release shame, soften self-judgment, and stay oriented toward connection, integrity, and growth, even when things don't go as planned.

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In this episode, Lisa and Kari sit down with international speaker and visibility expert Kimberly Crowe to talk about finding your voice and letting it work for you, especially in the middle chapters of life. They explore why so many women stay hidden, how the stories we tell ourselves shape our confidence, and what begins to shift when we choose visibility over perfection. Kimberly shares her journey from early speaking experiences to thousands of stages around the world, along with her philosophy that business and self-expression can be both meaningful and fun. It's a warm, encouraging conversation about midlife reinvention, storytelling as a path to connection, and the small, brave steps that help a voice grow stronger.

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In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa sit down with Dr. Nelva Lee to reflect on how embracing life's turns helped define the path she ultimately built. Nelva reflects on a career spanning healthcare administration, education, entrepreneurship, and community advocacy, and how building systems to support multilingual, immigrant, and underserved communities emerged through lived experience rather than linear planning. She shares how faith has guided her leadership and service, why midlife has become a season of intentional challenge and growth, and how continuing to push herself physically, most recently by running an ultramarathon, feels essential to staying alive and awake to her own life.

To learn more about Dr. Nelva Lee and her work, or to get in touch with her directly, visit DrNelvaLee.com.

If this conversation resonated and you're craving space to reflect on your own pivots, growth, and next chapter alongside other thoughtful women, there is still a short window to join Kari and Lisa at Unstoppable: A Best Chapter Yet Retreat, happening February 27 through March 1 in Palm Springs, California. It's an invitation to step into clarity, connection, and forward movement in a supportive, judgment-free circle, and it's coming up quickly.