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 The Land Department shares the state of land and energy as we see it. We cover topics like region and basin-specific challenges and solutions, tactics for producing the best work, opportunities in the industry, and stories from experts in the field.Dudley Land Company Management & Leadership Ökonomie
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  • 058 - The Evolution of Pooling in the Oil & Gas Industry with Ben Holliday

    058 - The Evolution of Pooling in the Oil & Gas Industry with Ben Holliday
    Feb 19 2026
    Energy attorney Ben Holliday breaks down how the oil and gas industry evolved from traditional pooling to today's allocation wells, tackling the complex challenge of drilling long laterals across multiple existing units.From the first Devon allocation well breakthrough to New Mexico's compulsory pooling framework, discover the practical solutions land professionals use to maximize development while navigating regulatory hurdles.What You’ll LearnHow allocation wells solved the multi-unit drilling problem without legislative changesKey differences between Texas allocation wells and New Mexico compulsory poolingWhy production sharing agreements fell out of favor despite regulatory supportHow to navigate lease restrictions on allocation well developmentThe evolution from 640-acre units to multi-section horizontal developmentTime Stamps00:45 - Episode & Guest Intro02:38 - Ben's Career Journey03:58 - Early Experiences in the Oil and Gas Industry10:29 - Pooling and Unitization Basics13:48 - Evolution of Allocation Wells15:52 - Challenges and Legal Aspects23:10 - Production Sharing Agreements26:19 - Current Practices and Industry Impact33:15 - Understanding Lateral Take Points33:42 - Complexities of Unit Allocation34:43 - Impact of AI on Landmen and Attorneys36:52 - Lease Analysis for Allocation Wells38:16 - Mineral Owners' Concerns41:52 - Retained Acreage Clauses and Allocation Wells47:06 - New Mexico's Compulsory Pooling System58:24 - Contested Hearings and Operator Disputes01:02:09 - Conclusion and ResourcesSnippets from the Episode"I learned from Mr. Arrington that in the context of a lease negotiation, 'no' means not right now, and you haven't paid me enough." - Ben Holliday"The general stance of Texas is to encourage development. We don't want to be restraining development, we want resources to be developed." - Ben Holliday“The story of multi-tract development is really a story of industry and the legal side of the house trying to keep pace with each other and what you can do.” - Ben HollidayKey TakeawaysTechnology Drove Legal InnovationRule 37 Exceptions Opened Allocation Well PossibilitiesPSAs Required Too Much Stakeholder CoordinationProductive Lateral Formula Became Industry StandardLease Language Analysis Critical for Allocation WellsNew Mexico's Compulsory System Protects State RevenueBoth State Approaches Effectively Maximize Resource Development⁠⁠Help us improve our podcast! Share your thoughts in our quick survey.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ResourcesNeed Help With A Project? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meet With Dudley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Need Help with Staffing? Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dudley Staffing ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Streamline Your Title Process with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dudley Select Title⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch On ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Dudley Land Co. On ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe To Our Newsletter, The Land Dept. MonthlyHave Questions? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠More from Ben HollidayAttorney and President - Holliday Energy Law GroupConnect with Ben on LinkedInMore from Our HostsConnect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Brent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on LinkedInConnect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Khalil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on LinkedInConnect With UsReady to protect your land projects with integrated legal and title support? Our Dudley Select Title division works seamlessly with experienced oil and gas counsel to keep your deals on track and defensible. Contact us to learn how our complete energy partnership approach includes the legal expertise that matters when stakes are high.
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  • 057 - How Landmen Should Be Thinking About AI in 2026 with Jerris Johnson

    057 - How Landmen Should Be Thinking About AI in 2026 with Jerris Johnson
    Feb 5 2026

    Two years after AI entered the conversation, the real question is what’s actually working in the field and what’s still hype. Jerris Johnson returns to share ground-level insight on how AI is being used in land management today, from runsheet generation to document review.


    This conversation cuts through marketing noise to focus on practical use cases, real implementation challenges, and why measuring keystrokes matters more than flashy promises.


    What You’ll Learn

    • How AI expectations have evolved from "it can do nothing" to "it should do everything"
    • Real applications working today in title analysis and land administration
    • Why the "keystrokes saved" approach leads to measurable results
    • Practical steps for building your own AI workflows without enterprise subscriptions
    • The constraint-based thinking that makes AI implementation successful


    Time Stamps

    • 01:10 - Welcome Back, Jerris Johnson!
    • 01:58 - The Evolution of AI in Two Years
    • 02:50 - Challenges and Misconceptions in AI Adoption
    • 05:48 - Real-World Applications of AI in Land Management
    • 14:49 - Future Prospects and Practical Challenges
    • 27:43 - Exploring AI Tools for Professionals
    • 29:11 - The Importance of Identifying Constraints
    • 30:38 - Leveraging AI for Workflow Efficiency
    • 34:19 - Challenges in AI Adoption
    • 43:26 - Future of AI in Business


    Snippets from the Episode

    • "We can never use the word 'never' again. Today we're talking about desk work, but even out in the field, humanoid robots are going to be a thing." - Jerris Johnson
    • "A really healthy metric to think about is keystrokes. How many keystrokes are you doing on a daily basis? Does AI allow you to reduce those keystrokes? That kind of thinking will help to see how AI helps." - Jerris Johnson
    • "The AI is an intern. It's an infinitely knowledgeable intern, but it's only able to do what you want as well as you describe what you want." - Khalil Benalioulhaj
    • "We're not faced with this 'death by subscription' concept, which is a real challenge to implementation across a grand scale." - Brent Broussard
    • "Put on the brakes a little bit. I know I told you to try it, but now we've got to be patient. We've got to let the technology catch up to our dreams." - Jerris Johnson


    Key Takeaways

    1. Focus on Enhancement, Not Replacement
    2. Use the "Keystrokes Saved" Success Metric
    3. Treat AI Like Training an Infinitely Knowledgeable Intern
    4. Identify Your Workflow Constraints Before Adding AI
    5. Start Manual, Then Scale, Avoid Enterprise Tool Dependency
    6. Balance Enthusiasm with Reasonable Expectations


    ⁠Help us improve our podcast! Share your thoughts in our quick survey.⁠⁠⁠⁠


    Resources

    • Need Help With A Project? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meet With Dudley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • Need Help with Staffing? Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dudley Staffing ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • Streamline Your Title Process with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dudley Select Title⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • Watch On ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • Follow Dudley Land Co. On ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • Subscribe To Our Newsletter, The Land Dept. Monthly
    • Have Questions? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


    More from Jerris Johnson

    • ⁠The Real Deal Landman Show⁠
    • Connect with Jerris on⁠ LinkedIn⁠


    More from Our Hosts

    • Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Brent⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on LinkedIn
    • Connect with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Khalil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on LinkedIn
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    54 Min.
  • 056 - Day Rates, Mentorship, and the Future of Field Work with Kyle Reynolds

    056 - Day Rates, Mentorship, and the Future of Field Work with Kyle Reynolds
    Jan 22 2026
    AAPL President Kyle Reynolds sheds light on the landman compensation crisis that's threatening the industry's future. While attorney salaries jumped 76% since 2000, field landmen still earn the same $400-500 day rates they have for the past 25 years. That puts them below the living wage in most markets. Reynolds shares AAPL's strategic plan to address the talent shortage before 40-50% of field landmen retire, plus insights on recruiting across oil, gas, and renewables.What You’ll LearnWhy field landman day rates haven't increased since 2000, despite doubled costsThe real numbers behind the landman talent shortage and aging workforceHow AAPL is tackling compensation conversations without price-fixingWhy field experience matters more than ever for career advancementSmart strategies for justifying higher contractor rates to operatorsTime Stamps00:42 - Episode & Guest Intro00:54 - Kyle's Journey as AAPL President02:15 - The Evolving Role of Landmen02:45 - Impact of Media and Education on Landmen04:31 - Recruitment and Training Challenges07:44 - Field vs. In-House Landmen11:37 - The Importance of Mentorship17:51 - Economic Realities and Compensation26:46 - The Future of Landmen and Technology35:11 - Understanding Brokerage Fees and Costs36:10 - The Importance of Skilled Labor in Drilling Projects37:54 - The Value of Investing in Quality Landmen38:49 - Challenges and Strategies in Land Management47:18 - The Debate on Licensing for Landmen51:35 - Innovative Approaches to Land ManagementSnippets from the Episode"Field landman day rates have been pretty stagnant, $400 to $500 a day in 2000, and that's still what they're making today. In 2000, a field landman made more than the average attorney. Fast forward 25 years, attorneys are up 50-something percent versus five." - Kyle Reynolds"If you just look at inflation, $400 in 2000 is $770 today. You took what was a really high-paying job and now you're scraping." - Kyle Reynolds"Texas is the only place that our field landmen are making money above the living wage standard. You could make more money working at Buc-ee's than doing this work on an hourly basis." - Kyle Reynolds"The forward face of your company is not your VP of land, it's the landman who actually took the lease and said, 'We're going to take care of you, Mr. Jones.'" - Kyle Reynolds"About 40-50% of our members are nearing retirement age. Most of those are the ones out in the field, brokers, independent landmen. That's where there really is this age gap." - Kyle ReynoldsKey TakeawaysField landmen earn below living wage in most US marketsDay rates flat since 2000 while attorney pay increased 76%40-50% of field landmen approaching retirement creates talent crisisCOPAS billing rates up 350% while landman rates stayed flatField experience essential for in-house career advancementTechnology requires mentorship can't replace human expertiseQuality contractors justify premium rates through measurable resultsHelp us improve our podcast! Share your thoughts in our quick survey.⁠⁠ResourcesNeed Help With A Project? ⁠⁠⁠Meet With Dudley⁠⁠⁠Need Help with Staffing? Connect with ⁠⁠⁠Dudley Staffing ⁠⁠⁠Streamline Your Title Process with ⁠⁠⁠Dudley Select Title⁠⁠⁠Watch On ⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠Follow Dudley Land Co. On ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠Subscribe To Our Newsletter, The Land Dept. MonthlyHave Questions? ⁠⁠⁠Email us⁠⁠⁠More from Our GuestKyle Reynolds - President - American Association of Professional LandmenConnect with Kyle on LinkedinMore from Our HostsConnect with ⁠⁠⁠Brent⁠⁠⁠ on LinkedInConnect with ⁠⁠⁠Khalil⁠⁠⁠ on LinkedIn
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