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The JOY Hour

The JOY Hour

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 Welcome to The JOY Hour with Ella Mesma. Each episode, creative entrepreneurs share their real stories: the struggles, the transformations, and what it truly takes to build a business and life that feels aligned. This isn't about hustle culture or overnight success. It's about the messy, beautiful journey to choosing joy, creativity, and authenticity over everything else. Grab a tea, get cosy, and join us for The JOY HourMaya Gandaia Persönliche Entwicklung Persönlicher Erfolg
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  • The JOY Hour Podcast hosted by Ella Mesma. Episode 74: Gloopy Time with Harinder

    The JOY Hour Podcast hosted by Ella Mesma. Episode 74: Gloopy Time with Harinder
    Feb 15 2026

    LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT:

    Recorded in London. The JOY Hour acknowledges the colonial histories of the UK and honours the diverse communities whose lands and labour built this city.

    ABOUT THIS EPISODE:

    Harinder Virdee spent 25 plus years in large multinational corporations working in finance across the US, Austria and the UK... then one day chose something completely different. In this conversation, we explore what she calls "gloopy time": this unhurried, present, heart-led way of experiencing life that opened up when she stepped away from the doing and the delivering. We talk about the tussle between head and heart, the courage it takes to park everything you know and try something different, and how the body always knows the truth before the mind catches up.

    🎁 FREE GIFT FOR LISTENERS:

    Download your free Joy Hour resource at www.mayagandaia.com/joyhourgift

    IN THIS EPISODE:

    "Gloopy time": the unhurried experience of presence after leaving corporate lifeThe tussle between head and heart... and choosing the heartMoving from productivity and "doing" into being and receivingNot being good enough, not being worthy... and the burnout that followedThe ego growing alongside us and continuing to "protect"How the body knows before the mind does, every single time"My head drew the lines, but my heart adds the colour"Looking for the stars: finding light in the darknessLife in two tomes... and choosing to open the second book

    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 – Introduction

    00:38 – A day in the life of Harinder: unhurried

    01:32 – Gloopy time and the quality of presence

    03:38 – Drawing, presence and stepping into infinity

    05:41 – The transition from structure to beingness

    06:15 – Moving from masculine doing to feminine being

    08:36 – The old me versus the emerging me

    09:34 – Life in two tomes

    11:03 – When you're not on the right path, you'll get hints

    13:52 – Spiralling to be more childlike

    15:32 – Moving from acquiring into being

    17:11 – Who am I actually living this life for?

    17:49 – The body knows before the mind does

    20:19 – Life before: not knowing what I was feeling

    21:07 – Not being good enough and not being worthy

    24:18 – Gravitating towards coaching

    26:44 – The catalyst: was there a definitive moment?

    29:01 – Where the joy exists

    29:37 – Carrying the light into the darkness

    32:01 – Closing


    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Harinder Virdee spent over 25 years working in finance across large multinational corporations, living in the US, Austria and the UK. It was in the corporate world that she first found coaching, and when she stepped away three years ago, everything opened up. Today, Harinder is a transformational coach, artist, illustrator, clothing designer and host of the Belly Button Musings podcast. She describes her life now in one word: unhurried.

    CONNECT:

    Ella Mesma

    Website:

    www.ellamesma.co.uk | www.mayagandaia.com

    Book:

    https://mayagandaia.com/journal-to-joy/

    Current offers:

    https://mayagandaia.com/links/

    Instagram:

    https://www.instagram.com/ellamesma/

    Harinder Virdee

    Podcast:

    Belly Button Musings (available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify): https://open.spotify.com/show/1bPubYSYTRkzdFWrsgJjuq

    LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/harinder-virdee-73a54630/

    LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE TO THE JOY HOUR:

    Apple:

    https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-joy-hour/id1849505845

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1e2AslgK9q1hnEimdgQHzr

    YouTube:

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4ybUzyvIV4PVoZ3S9ZK1pEGKuY7XcY8M

    ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS & THANKS:

    Music: LamRock

    Everything else: Brought to you by Ella and guests ❤️

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    28 Min.
  • The JOY Hour Podcast hosted by Ella Mesma. Episode 73: What would you tell your 14 year-old self with Isik Tlabar

    The JOY Hour Podcast hosted by Ella Mesma. Episode 73: What would you tell your 14 year-old self with Isik Tlabar
    Jan 18 2026
    THE JOY HOUR PODCASTHosted by Ella Mesma. Episode 73: What would you tell your 14 year-old self with Isik TlabarLAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT:Recorded between Munich and Istanbul. The JOY Hour celebrates and gives thanks to the lands of Türkiye (Isik's homeland) and Germany (where Ella is studying Rolfing). We honour in particular the rich heritage of Anatolia and the Indigenous communities who have called these lands home, and recognise the painful legacies of war, displacement, and violence alongside the ongoing work of healing and remembrance that continue to shape both places.ABOUT THIS EPISODE:Content Warning: This episode references burnout, dark night of the soul experiences, relationship healing, and nudity in therapeutic breathwork context.Isik Tlabar shares her journey from architecture to intuition coaching and Naked Breathwork. Discover how a TikTok series became a book, why bodies are just bodies, and the powerful advice she'd give her 14-year-old self.🎁 FREE GIFT FOR LISTENERS:Download your free Joy Hour resource at www.mayagandaia.com/joyhourgiftIN THIS EPISODE:Following joy as your primary guidance—sunshine in the chestFrom architecture to coaching via sandwich delivery and nannyingHow a dark moment led to a TikTok series that became a bookNaked Breathwork: creating safe spaces where bodies can just be bodiesThe conscious undressing ritualWorking with teenage girls and the pressure to have it all figured outWhat to do when you're thinking of quittingTIMESTAMPS:00:01 – Introduction01:38 – A day in the life of Isik03:43 – Following joy and intuition08:30 – The journey: was it always sunshine?10:01 – Architecture: feeling like a bird trying to swim underwater12:22 – Starting Goddess Circles in 201715:34 – The dark night moment that led to TikTok explosion17:57 – The birth of Naked Breathwork22:10 – The conscious undressing ritual27:32 – What Isik would tell her 14-year-old self31:15 – ClosingABOUT THE GUEST:Isik Tlabar is an intuition coach, breathwork facilitator, and author who helps people connect with their intuition to find the most direct routes to what they want. She's the creator of Naked Breathwork and author of "140 Things I Wish I Knew When I Was 14". With 18 years of experience in personal development, psychology, intuition, shadow work, alchemy, shamanic practices, sacred sexuality, and breathwork, she brings depth and wisdom to her work. Based in Istanbul, she travels to facilitate workshops and retreats worldwide.RESOURCES & MENTIONS:Julia Cameron's "The Artist's Way": Morning Pages practiceEnneagram Type 3: The AchieverWilliam Whitecloud, Natural Success and Ryan Pinnock"140 Things I Wish I Knew When I Was 14": Available on AmazonIllustrator Iram KaleNaked Breathwork and the conscious undressing ritualIntuition Course: https://www.isiktlabar.com/CONNECT:Ella MesmaWebsite: www.ellamesma.co.uk | www.mayagandaia.comBook: https://mayagandaia.com/journal-to-joy/Current offers: https://mayagandaia.com/links/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ellamesma/Isik TlabarInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/isiktlabar/Book: "140 Things I Wish I Knew When I Was 14" on AmazonWebsite: https://www.isiktlabar.com/LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE:Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-joy-hour/id1849505845Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1e2AslgK9q1hnEimdgQHzrYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mayagandaiaAmazon: https://shorturl.at/uFKChACKNOWLEDGEMENTS & THANKS:Music: LamRockEverything else: Brought to you by Ella and guests ❤️Enjoyed this episode? Like, Subscribe, and Share!
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    32 Min.
  • The JOY Hour Podcast hosted by Ella Mesma. Episode 72: Take up your Space with Nidhi Bhatia

    The JOY Hour Podcast hosted by Ella Mesma. Episode 72: Take up your Space with Nidhi Bhatia
    Dec 21 2025
    THE JOY HOUR PODCASTEpisode 72: Take up your Space with Nidhi BhatiaRelease Date: 21st December 2025LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT:Recorded between London and Lisbon. The JOY Hour acknowledges the Yavapai-Apache Nation as Traditional Custodians of Sedona, and pays respect to their Elders past, present, and emerging. We acknowledge the colonial histories of the UK and Portugal, and honour the diverse communities whose lands and labour built these cities.ABOUT THIS EPISODE:Content Warning: This episode references mental health struggles, suicidal ideation, and ayahuasca use.Nidhi Bhatia shares her journey from feeling trapped to discovering that taking up space is the most natural, divine thing we can do. Explore the daemon: the inner force that either consumes us when we suppress our truth or supports us when we follow our authentic path.🎁 FREE GIFT FOR LISTENERS:Download your free Joy Hour resource at mayagandaia.com/joyhourgiftIN THIS EPISODE:The daemon concept: your inner North StarMoving from entrapment to freedom through storytellingWhy facing the monster is more powerful than runningTaking up space as a divine act and permission slipThe shift from "I need fixing" to "I'm invited to expand"How to step out of the shadows overnightTIMESTAMPS:00:00 – Introduction01:20 – What is the daemon?05:57 – Working with the mud to create gold08:12 – Turning to face the monster22:37 – The pink poncho story: taking up space in public26:25 – Message to those hiding in the shadows30:12 – ClosingABOUT THE GUEST:Nidhi Bhatia is a storyteller: both visual and word, and through every story she moves from entrapment to freedom. She's learning the truth is magnetic, and it's what we're all seeking from each other and ourselves. Storytelling is her way to freedom, and she'll take as many people as possible with her.RESOURCES & MENTIONS:The Daemon concept: From Greek mythology, psychologist Rollo May, and Philip Pullman's "His Dark Materials" seriesHindi phrase: "Bhagwan utahlai" - God, lift me upThe pink poncho: Nidhi's favourite item of clothing, from Ecuador "In the Shadows" open mic night: Run by Giel in Lisbon - https://www.instagram.com/heyitsgielCONNECT:Ella MesmaWebsite: www.ellamesma.co.uk | www.mayagandaia.comBook: https://mayagandaia.com/journal-to-joy/Current offers: https://mayagandaia.com/links/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ellamesma/Nidhi BhatiaYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@nidhibhatiaInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsnidhibhatia/Substack: https://substack.com/@itsnidhiLISTEN & SUBSCRIBE:Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-joy-hour/id1849505845Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1e2AslgK9q1hnEimdgQHzrYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mayagandaiaAmazon: https://shorturl.at/uFKChACKNOWLEDGEMENTS & THANKS:Music: LamRockEverything else: Brought to you by Ella and guests ❤️Enjoyed this episode? Like, Subscribe, and Share!If you or someone you know is struggling:UK: Samaritans - 116 123 | US: 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline | International: findahelpline.com
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    29 Min.
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