In this episode of The Hale Report, Lyric Hughes Hale speaks with Ruby Wang about China’s rapid transformation of its healthcare system - and why it matters far beyond medicine.

Drawing on personal experience, economic analysis, and cultural insight, the conversation explores how healthcare has become central to China’s development model, its approach to aging and demographics, and its growing influence in biotech, digital health, and pharmaceutical supply chains.

The discussion also confronts one of the most persistent barriers to understanding China: fundamentally different assumptions about privacy, data, and the relationship between the individual and the state.

Lyric Hughes Hale speaks with David Marsh, the founder of OMFIF about Europe’s fractured landscape: Germany’s struggles, Russia’s war, US- China rivalry, regulation, the euro—and what must change for the continent to endure.

Guest host Marsha Vande Berg speaks with Karthik Muralidharan, Tata Chancellor’s Professor of Economics at UC San Diego and founder of the Centre for Effective Governance of Indian States (CEGIS). They discuss his acclaimed new book, Accelerating India’s Development: A State-Led Roadmap for Effective Governance, exploring how better state capacity—not just more spending—can unlock India’s vast potential. A conversation about evidence-based reform, economic inclusion, and India’s evolving role on the world stage.