What does it take to turn 325 acres of Indiana woods into a national spirits brand and an "adult Disneyland" that pulls visitors from across the country? In this episode of The Upgraded Man Podcast, Chris Anderson sits down with Jeff McCabe, co-founder of Hard Truth Distilling Co., for a wide-ranging conversation on craft, mindset, family, and the long game of building something that lasts.

Jeff is a Naval Academy graduate and former Navy pilot who went on to run a major part of the business travel and corporate card division at American Express before stepping away to chase a different kind of dream in Brown County. Alongside his partners and his own family, he built Big Woods, Quaff On, and Hard Truth into an experience that visitors remember long after they leave.

In this conversation, you'll hear:

• Why a whiskey tastes better at 93 proof than 90, and what that obsession with detail reveals about doing anything well
• The Charlie Munger philosophy on the wall of his boardroom, and the wild family connection to Munger that Jeff only learned recently
• What the Naval Academy taught him about failing, and why learning to fail removed his fear of it
• How he leads people who don't share his mindset by listening first and meaning what he says
• The realities of running a business with his son, daughter, and son-in-law all under one roof
• Where he was on the morning of 9/11, and how being out of New York let him help in a way no one else could
• The McCabe family history, from Irish Gallowglass roots to two uncles' bars and a now-legendary dance hall story
• The Byron Nelson lesson that stuck with him for life: never putt short

Whether you're building a company, leading a team, or just trying to navigate whatever life throws your way, Jeff's blend of hard-won wisdom and Midwest grit offers something to take home.

Hard Truth Distilling Co. is located in Nashville, Indiana, in the heart of Brown County, and its spirits are now distributed across 38 states. Plan a visit to walk the property, take a distillery tour, or build a custom experience of your own.

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In this episode of The Upgraded Man Podcast, host Chris Anderson sits down with Dr. Carla Caturia, a mindset and family relationship expert who has worked with thousands of families to help fathers strengthen their connection with their kids. As the first female guest since the show's rebrand, Dr. Carla brings a fresh, practical perspective to one of the toughest questions dads face: how do I stay close to my kid as they grow up?

Whether you have a toddler, a teenager, or a kid somewhere in between, this conversation gives you a real-world framework for showing up as the father your kids actually need.

Key topics and takeaways:

• Why the disconnect between dads and their teenage sons is normal, but absolutely fixable
• The "fix-it trap" most dads fall into and what to do instead when your kid opens up
• How to read your child's energy and know when to listen versus when to engage
• The difference between productive struggle and being too hard on your kids
• Why discipline rooted in natural consequences is more effective than reactive punishment
• How to navigate the identity shifts kids go through in elementary, middle, and high school
• The 20-minute weekly strategy that can transform your relationship with your teen
• Why regulating your own emotions is the single biggest move a dad can make
• How to spot whether your kid is dealing with a motivation problem or an identity problem
• The role of vulnerability in earning your child's trust and respect
• Why affirmations only work when paired with evidence
• What dads need to let go of as their kids grow into their own people

Dr. Carla also shares the story of a father and two sons whose relationship transformed through small, consistent shifts, and leaves dads with a powerful reminder to have grace with themselves through the journey.

Connect with Dr. Carla on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, and YouTube. Reach out directly for a consultation if you want personalized support strengthening your family relationships.

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Welcome to the very first guest episode of The Upgraded Man Podcast. Host Chris Anderson sits down with Dr. Bobby Shelton, a researcher and speaker on self-leadership theory, for a conversation about what it actually takes for a man to like himself again, and why so many high-achieving men are quietly running on empty.

Bobby opens up about the morning he sat in a chair for an hour and a half, refusing to stand until he gave himself permission to start liking who he was. He shares how a wife's blunt comment, 180 pounds of weight loss, a doctoral program he chose because he hated reading, and the funeral of yet another friend lost to suicide led him to a breaking point and a complete rebuild. The conversation moves into Bobby's signature framework, easy hard versus hard hard, and why most men exhaust themselves on the wrong battles.

In this episode:

• The chair moment that changed Bobby's life and what it means to give yourself permission
• Why losing 180 pounds and earning a doctorate didn't fix the anger or the depression
• The self-leadership principle: you cannot lead others until you lead yourself
• How men outsource their identity to jobs, social media, religion, and the opinions of strangers
• Easy hard versus hard hard, and how to tell which one you are actually living in
• The daily writing practice Bobby uses to end every morning with "I love you, Bobby"
• Why saying no to good things is the price of saying yes to your real purpose
• Bobby's next mission with the George W. Bush Institute supporting veteran mental health

Connect with Dr. Bobby Shelton through Self Leadership Lab, available on YouTube, Apple, and major platforms, and on LinkedIn. His website and email are open for anyone who wants to start the work.

Subscribe to The Upgraded Man Podcast for weekly conversations built for men who refuse to be complacent.

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