What happens when Kingdom leaders stop pretending the fight is only external and start naming it for what it is?

In this episode, Latondra celebrates one year of the Disruptor’s Council with a raw, unscripted conversation between herself and five members of The Council — Sheena Payne, Barbara Perez, Esq., Abby Goffredo, Kristine Goebel, and Bristan Heaven — about how to tell spiritual interference apart from a natural business problem.

The conversation addresses how a good thing quietly becomes an idol, why the enemy works to magnify every reason not to obey, and why the majority of spiritual warfare isn't something happening to you — it's something happening in you.

If you've ever built something to honor God and watched it quietly take over your life instead, or assumed every setback was an attack when the real work was either internal or a common business challenge, this conversation will challenge you, convict you, and equip you to tell the difference.

SCRIPTURE REFERENCES:

1 Samuel 15:22
Genesis 3:6
Colossians 2:15
Hosea 6:3
Jeremiah 23:21-23
Galatians 3:1-3
Mark 1:12
Matthew 11:28
Matthew 12:28-29

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

• Why discernment can be difficult
• Obedience, stewardship, and making decisions
• Authority, deception, and knowing who you are in Christ
• Perseverance, small choices, and staying aligned
• Building on the right foundation
• Going to God before formulas, systems, and outside advice
• When things fall apart: internal misalignment or outside opposition?
• Ambition, identity, and redefining success
• Recognizing patterns, shame, striving, and identity distortion
• Internal vs. external battles in business
• Prayer as the starting point for discernment
• Listening for God’s direction in spiritual conflict

ABOUT THE GUESTS:

Sheena Payne — A leader in the financial services world with recent years spent in learning strategy, drawn to the Disruptor’s Council through her curiosity and identification as a disruptor

https://sheenapayne.com/

Barbara Perez — An attorney in Central Florida and homeschool mom of two, serving on the boards of the Central Florida Christian Chamber of Commerce and the Christian Legal Society of Central Florida

http://www.barbaraperezlaw.com/

Abby Goffredo — Founder of Lighthouse Taxes, working in accounting, bookkeeping, and taxes, who joined The Council specifically seeking a strategy for spiritual warfare in business.

https://lighthousetaxes.com/

Kristine Goebel — Founder of Accompany Suite, an organizational health and development company specializing in emotional intelligence, and The Council's very first official member.

https://www.accompanysuite.com/

Bristan Heaven — Co-founder of Kingdom REACH Leadership and Latondra's husband and partner across business and ministry

https://www.kingdomreachleadership.com/

JOIN THE DISRUPTOR'S COUNCIL at bit.ly/disruptors_council.

What happens when you stop treating prayer like a fire extinguisher and start treating it like a boardroom strategy session with the Most High? In this episode, Latondra sits down with her friend Camille Babin for a raw, unscripted conversation about what it really means to pray with precision, purpose, and partnership with the Holy Spirit in your business.

This is not your typical "just pray about it" episode. Camille and Latondra go deep into the mechanics of strategic prayer, the posture required to hear God clearly, and why many of us have been approaching spiritual warfare the wrong way.

If you have ever felt like your prayers are bouncing off the ceiling, or if you have been "doing the most" in prayer without seeing results, this conversation will challenge you, convict you, and equip you to recalibrate.

You need to listen to this one. All the way through.

Matthew 6:5-13

Matthew 6:33

1 Kings 18:25-29

Numbers 13:30-33

Nehemiah 4:17-18

Nehemiah 6:3

Proverbs 3:5-6

Ecclesiastes 1:9

John 5:19

John 9:2-3

Joshua 7:10-12

Genesis 25:22-23

Hebrews 11:6

Hebrews 4:16

Ephesians 2:6

1 Peter 2:9

John 4:22

• The SHURE Framework: Camille's Spiritual Intelligence model for prayer and decision-making
• Pray Storming: Borrowed from Mark Batterson's The Circle Maker
• The 5-Question Prayer Strategy Framework: A targeted approach to strategic prayer
• Too Big for Your Britches: The flip side to the grasshopper mentality
• The Role of Research in Prayer: Proper preparation required for prayer requires
• What Does Laser Tag Have to Do with Prayer?
• What God Is Saying to Kingdom Leaders in This Season? (Camille's Exhortation)

Camille is a Spiritual Intelligence (SQ) expert, author, speaker, and founder of TELEIA and the SQ Academy. She helps faith-driven leaders and entrepreneurs align money, leadership, and business with divine wisdom to build wealth, legacy, and impact. Through her transformational teachings on stewardship, financial strategy, and spiritual intelligence, Camille equips individuals and organizations to lead with clarity, purpose, and kingdom principles.

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•Current Offer: Joseph School of Stewardship: The Circle (JSOS Circle) | TELEIA SQ Academy

Ready to go deeper? Join a community of Kingdom leaders who are done with surface-level strategy and ready to partner with the Holy Spirit for real disruption in the marketplace.

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What happens when God decides it's time to dismantle everything you've been leaning on — all at once? Not just in your business. Not just in your health. In all of it — simultaneously.

In this episode, Latondra sits down with her friend and Disruptor's Council member Kristine Goebel, founder and CEO of Accompany Suite, for a raw, unscripted, no-masks conversation about what it actually looks like to be in the middle of God's disruption and still show up anyway.

If you've been waiting until you're ready, this episode will provoke you out of that waiting.

• God's disruption is not the enemy's attack
• Your body is not separate from your calling
• The playbook that works for everyone else may be working against you
• Your unreadiness is not a reason to wait
• Community is not a luxury
• You don't have to compete with people who carry what you don't
• Figuring it out is part of the assignment

• Matthew 4:4
• John 4:34
• Mark 1:12
• Exodus 4:2
• Ephesians 4:16
• 1 Corinthians 6:19-20
• James 1:6
• Psalm 37:4

Kristine Goebel is the founder and CEO of Accompany Suite, an organizational health consultancy focused on building healthy teams and thriving workplace cultures. She is also a member of The Disruptor's Council.

🌐 accompanysuite.com 📧 hello@accompanysuite.com 📱 Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn | YouTube: @kristinegoebel

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Kingdom leaders don't wait for perfect conditions. They move in partnership with the Holy Spirit — disrupted, figuring it out, and doing the thing anyway.