Baltazar is vegan. Ela eats meat. Can we find common ground?

In this episode we turn the lens on one of the most emotionally charged lifestyle divides of our time — food. What starts as a conversation about diet quickly becomes something deeper: about values, identity, moral judgement, and how we talk to people we care about when we fundamentally disagree.

We navigate this with honesty and care, touching on animal ethics, environmentalism, empathy across difference, and what it actually feels like to be on each side of this conversation.

The Depolarization Podcast is a collaboration between The Empathy Institute and Radical Heart Therapy and Coaching LLC.

Follow the podcast: https://thedepolarizationpodcast.com/

Follow The Empathy Institute: theempathyinstitute.com

Follow Ela and learn about her trainings and workshops: https://www.radicalhearttherapy.com/

Follow Baltazar and sign up for his new book:

https://baltazarfaunback.com/

Baltazar is vegan. Ela eats meat. Can we find common ground?

In this episode we turn the lens on one of the most emotionally charged lifestyle divides of our time — food. What starts as a conversation about diet quickly becomes something deeper: about values, identity, moral judgement, and how we talk to people we care about when we fundamentally disagree.

We navigate this with honesty and care, touching on animal ethics, environmentalism, empathy across difference, and what it actually feels like to be on each side of this conversation.

The Depolarization Podcast is a collaboration between The Empathy Institute and Radical Heart Therapy and Coaching LLC.

Follow the podcast: https://thedepolarizationpodcast.com/

Follow The Empathy Institute: theempathyinstitute.com

Follow Ela and learn about her trainings and workshops: https://www.radicalhearttherapy.com/

Follow Baltazar and sign up for his new book:

https://baltazarfaunback.com/

Baltazar is a long time Joe Rogan listener. In Ela's circles Joe Rogan is “cancelled”.

This is the second episode where we sit down to actually talk about what it triggers in us to talk about Joe Rogan, what it says about our values, and whether we can genuinely understand each other's perspective and hold the pain underneath it.

We navigate this conversation with care as our conversations touches many sensitive topics such as censorship, freedom of speech, racism, American politics, and Donald Trump.

The Depolarization Podcast is a collaboration between The Empathy Institute and Radical Heart Therapy and Coaching LLC.

Follow the podcast: https://thedepolarizationpodcast.com/

Follow The Empathy Institute: theempathyinstitute.com

Follow Ela and learn about her trainings and workshops: https://www.radicalhearttherapy.com/

Follow Baltazar and sign up for his new book:

https://baltazarfaunback.com/

Baltazar is a long time Joe Rogan listener. In Ela's circles Joe Rogan is “cancelled”.

In this first episode we sit down to actually talk about why, what it triggers, what it says about our values, and whether we can genuinely understand each other's perspective and hold the pain underneath it.

We navigate this conversation with care as our conversations touches many sensitive topics such as censorship, freedom of speech, racism, American politics, and Donald Trump.

The Depolarization Podcast is a collaboration between The Empathy Institute and Radical Heart Therapy and Coaching LLC.

Follow the podcast: https://thedepolarizationpodcast.com/

Follow The Empathy Institute: theempathyinstitute.com

Follow Ela and learn about her trainings and workshops: https://www.radicalhearttherapy.com/

Follow Baltazar and sign up for his new book:

https://baltazarfaunback.com/