On this episode of the Deal Farm®, Kevin and Ken talk with Caleb Christopher about turning "trash leads" into profitable creative finance deals. Based in Kansas City, Caleb shares how he went from accidental landlord to launching Creative TC, where he helps investors structure safe, legal, and ethical sub-to and seller-finance transactions. He breaks down the real risks behind creative financing, including due-on-sale clauses, expectation management, and protecting sellers the right way. If you've ever wondered how to convert dead leads into serious opportunities, this episode is packed with practical insight.

On this episode of the Deal Farm®, Kevin and Ken talk with Travis Jameson about his journey from small-town beginnings to building, scaling, and exiting multiple online businesses while living and working across Asia and Europe. Travis shares how mastering search algorithms, SaaS, and digital distribution led to multiple seven- and eight-figure exits—and the hard lessons that came with them. He also dives into how those experiences shaped his move into lower middle market investing and building a platform that gives investors access to boring-but-profitable businesses. This episode is packed with real-world insights on entrepreneurship, exits, and deploying capital the smart way.

On this episode of the Deal Farm®, Kevin and Ken talk with Joe Downs about his incredible journey of reinvention—from losing $100K in the restaurant world to rebuilding his life through grit and persistence. Joe shares how getting knocked down led him into radio sales, real estate, distressed debt, and ultimately into the world of self-storage and commercial investing. His story is packed with hard lessons, big pivots, and the mindset shifts that helped him turn setbacks into a multimillion-dollar career. This is an episode for anyone who needs proof that resilience really does pay off.