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Dr. Christopher Perrin has been a leader in the renewal of classical education in the United States for 25 years. In this podcast, he traces the renewal of the American paideia exploring the recent history of the American renaissance in light of the 2500 years that have preceded it. Christopher is the founding CEO of Classical Academic Press and the founder of ClassicalU.com. The Christopher Perrin Show is part of the TrueNorth.fm podcast network.©TrueNorth.fm Sozialwissenschaften
  • Episode 66: Rekindling the Flame: Jamie Burns and the Renewal of Classical Education in the UK
    Oct 28 2026
    In this episode of The Christopher Perrin Show, Christopher Perrin welcomes Jamie Burns, founder and chief executive of the Fellowship for Classical Learning, a charity organization building a network of classical Christian independent schools in the United Kingdom. They discuss the renewal of classical Christian education in the United Kingdom. Burns recalls growing up between two educational worlds: the classical inheritance passed down by his father and the more relativistic assumptions he encountered in school. After teaching in British state schools, he discovered the American classical education renewal through Andrew Kern’s podcast, The Ask Andrew Podcast, and began building transatlantic relationships to help recover that tradition in Britain. He describes the Fellowship’s beginnings at a 2023 gathering in the House of Lords, its vision for schools, teacher formation, and a distinctly British curriculum, and the opening of The Fountain Christian School in London. Perrin and Burns explore the promise of small beginnings, the importance of pioneering families and teachers, the challenges of facilities and funding, and the possibility that established British schools might rediscover their own classical Christian roots. The conversation closes with an invitation to help cultivate a renewed educational culture, one school and one community at a time.To explore the foundations and history of this educational tradition, listeners can visit ClassicalU for Introduction to Classical Education and A Brief History of Classical Education. Episode OutlineJamie Burns’s childhood between a classical inheritance at home and a different vision of education at schoolTeaching in the British state system and discovering the American classical education renewalThe Rest Is History, the Integrated Humanities Program, and the power of learned conversationThe 2023 House of Lords gathering and the founding of the Fellowship for Classical LearningThe Fellowship’s vision for British schools, teacher training, and curriculumThe Fountain Christian School in Westminster and plans for another school in CardiffKnowledge-rich education, school culture, and the formation of virtuePioneers, small beginnings, and the prospect of renewal in existing British schoolsPractical needs: suitable premises, well-formed teachers, funding, and local faithfulnessKey Topics & TakeawaysAn Inherited Tradition: Burns received a classical vision of education through his father, even while attending a school that approached texts and truth differently. His experience sharpened his desire to pass that inheritance on.The Power of Conversation: Podcasts and the Integrated Humanities Program show how knowledgeable, enthusiastic people can invite others into The Great Conversation through shared delight in learning.A Transatlantic Renewal: Relationships with American classical educators and a gathering in the House of Lords helped launch the Fellowship for Classical Learning and its distinctly British mission.Schools as Communities of Formation: The Fountain Christian School began with seventeen pupils, reflecting a deliberate emphasis on founding culture, parents, teachers, and a clear educational purpose.Remembering Britain’s Educational Heritage: Burns sees the renewal not simply as creating new schools but also as helping established institutions recover the faith, liberal learning, and character formation embedded in their history.Faithfulness in Small Beginnings: The work requires patience, suitable buildings, people formed by the tradition, and financial support. The aim is durable local communities rather than growth for its own sake.Questions & DiscussionHow does an educational tradition pass from one generation to another?Consider Burns’s experience at home and at school. What habits, conversations, and relationships best transmit a love of truth and wisdom?What can the modern classical renewal learn from conversation centered learning?How might teachers model joyful intellectual exchange rather than simply deliver information?Why does the culture of a new school matter from its first day?What qualities should founding families, teachers, and leaders establish before a school grows?What would it mean for an established British school to recover its classical Christian purpose?Distinguish between keeping traditional subjects and recovering the deeper ends of education. What would change in a school’s ethos, teaching, and student formation?How can local faithfulness serve a larger educational renewal?Consider the needs Burns identifies: premises, people, and finances. Which forms of support are most urgent, and what role can small communities play?Suggested Reading & ResourcesFellowship for Classical LearningThe Fountain Christian School, LondonSt. Anselm’s School, CardiffThe Rest Is History podcast by Tom Holland and Dominic SandbrookThe Ask Andrew Podcast by Andrew KernDominion by Tom HollandAfter Virtue by Alasdair ...
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    1 Std. und 5 Min.
  • Episode 65: From Wonder to Wisdom: The Classical Journey of Education
    Sep 30 2026
    In this episode of The Christopher Perrin Show, Christopher Perrin reflects on wisdom as one of the chief aims of classical and liberal education. Beginning with practical wisdom, or phronesis and prudentia, he asks whether the young can become wise before age and experience have done their slow work. Drawing on Aristotle, Proverbs, Mortimer Adler, Anthony Kronman, and the older model of professors as bearers of a treasured inheritance, Perrin argues that students may grow wise by studying what is old with teachers and friends who love wisdom. He then takes listeners to the cathedral of Siena, where the medieval mosaic floor presents a journey from Lady Wisdom, Socrates, Crates, and the mountain of wisdom toward Moses, Abraham, the altar, and Christ, the power and wisdom of God. The episode unfolds the relationship between wonder and wisdom, showing how astonishment, humility, and awareness of ignorance begin the journey of philosophy and education. Perrin closes with Raphael’s image of Prudence as a young woman looking into a mirror with an old man’s face behind her, suggesting that the wisdom of the ages teaches us to know ourselves. This episode offers a rich meditation on Classical Academic Press’s renewed motto, Wonder to Wisdom, and on the lifelong climb toward wisdom, virtue, and freedom.Episode OutlineWisdom as one of the chief ends of classical and liberal educationPractical wisdom, phronesis, prudentia, and the wisdom that comes with ageWhether the young can become wise before long experience has done its workWise friends, noble teachers, old books, and the transmission of a treasured inheritanceThe cathedral of Siena and the mosaic of Lady Wisdom, Socrates, and CratesThe floor of Siena as a journey from pagan wisdom toward Moses, Abraham, the altar, and ChristWonder as the beginning of philosophy, learning, and the pursuit of wisdomClassical Academic Press’s renewed motto: Wonder to WisdomRaphael’s Prudence and the need to look backward in order to know ourselvesThe lifelong climb toward wisdom, virtue, freedom, and self-examinationKey Topics & TakeawaysWisdom as Education’s End: Classical education seeks more than information or novelty. It aims at wisdom, virtue, and freedom, forming students who can see and love what is true, good, and beautiful.Practical Wisdom and Prudence: Perrin distinguishes practical wisdom as the ability to know what to do in changing circumstances. The Greek phronesis and Latin prudentia both point to a kind of foresight gained through experience, mentoring, and disciplined reflection.Young Students and Old Wisdom: The young may lack long experience, but they can still receive wisdom by studying what is old. Wise teachers, noble friends, and great books can help students participate in an inheritance larger than themselves.Siena’s Eucharistic Journey: The cathedral floor in Siena presents wisdom as a pilgrimage, moving from Lady Wisdom, Socrates, Crates, and Mount Parnassus toward Mount Sinai, Moses, Abraham, the altar, and Christ.Wonder to Wisdom: Wonder begins the journey toward wisdom by awakening astonishment, fear, humility, and an awareness of ignorance. A good education should preserve and deepen that wonder rather than flatten it into utility.Prudence and Memory: Raphael’s Prudence suggests that wisdom requires both self-knowledge and historical memory. The young woman becomes prudent by looking into a mirror that reflects the wisdom of the old.Questions & DiscussionWhat does it mean for wisdom to be one of the chief ends of education?Consider the difference between education aimed at wisdom and education aimed mainly at information, credentials, or novelty. How would a school change if wisdom were truly one of its central goals?How can young people become wise before they have grown old?Discuss Perrin’s account of wise friends, noble teachers, old books, and inherited traditions. What kinds of study, friendship, and imitation help the young receive wisdom beyond their years?Why does Siena’s cathedral floor place pagan philosophers within a Christian journey?Reflect on the movement from Lady Wisdom, Socrates, Crates, and Mount Parnassus toward Moses, Abraham, the altar, and Christ. What does this suggest about natural wisdom, revealed wisdom, and fulfillment in Christ?What role should wonder play in teaching and learning?Consider Aristotle’s claim that philosophy begins in wonder and Perrin’s connection between wonder, fear, astonishment, and acknowledged ignorance. How can teachers provoke wonder without reducing it to entertainment?How does looking backward help us know ourselves?Discuss Raphael’s image of Prudence as a young woman with an old man’s face behind her. How do history, literature, and the wisdom of the ages help students see their own humanity more truthfully?Suggested Reading & ResourcesNicomachean Ethics by AristotleMetaphysics by AristotleThe Book of ProverbsClassicalU Course: Introduction to Classical ...
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    32 Min.
  • Episode 64: Passing the Torch: Louis Markos on the Classical Christian Inheritance
    Aug 26 2026
    In this episode of The Christopher Perrin Show, Christopher Perrin welcomes Dr. Louis Markos for a wide-ranging conversation about the Greco-Roman, Judeo-Christian legacy and the renewal of classical Christian education. Markos traces how his Greek heritage, early love for Homer and Plato, Jewish mentors, and long academic vocation prepared him to defend and pass on the liberal arts tradition. The conversation explores why Christians can read pagan classics with discernment, how general revelation prepares cultures for special revelation in Christ, and why the church has often received, purified, and redirected what is true, good, and beautiful outside its visible borders. Perrin and Markos discuss Athens and Jerusalem, Tertullian and Augustine, Plato and Hebrews, Paul at the Areopagus, Dante, Milton, C. S. Lewis, Mortimer Adler, John Dewey, and the dangers of both progressivism and dead classicism. They also consider how classical Christian schools form students in virtue, courtesy, confidence, joy, and participation in the great conversation. The episode closes with Markos describing his forthcoming Dante project with Classical Academic Press and pointing listeners to his ClassicalU courses on Greek and Roman mythology and Dante.Episode OutlineMarkos’s early formation: Greek heritage, Homer, Plato, Jewish mentors, and the call to become an English professorBringing Athens and Jerusalem together: the Greco-Roman and Judeo-Christian inheritance in classical Christian educationFrom Achilles to Christ and From Plato to Christ: pagan classics as preparation for the gospelDiscernment and general revelation: why Christians can receive truth, goodness, and beauty outside the churchTertullian, Augustine, Basil, Aquinas, Calvin, and the church’s long debate over pagan learningMission, culture, and baptism: plundering Egypt, reclaiming temples, and receiving what can be consecrated to ChristProgressivism, dead classicism, and the need for a living classical tradition ordered toward wisdom and virtueWhat classical Christian schools should cultivate: joy, confidence, courtesy, great books, and participation in the great conversationKey Topics & TakeawaysA Received Tradition: Markos’s love for the classical inheritance began through family, teachers, and reading. His Greek heritage, the Odyssey, Plato, and great mentors shaped his desire to pass on liberal education.Athens and Jerusalem: The episode centers on the union of the Greco-Roman and Judeo-Christian traditions. Markos argues that the pagan classics can prepare readers for Christ when received through Christian discernment.General Revelation and Discernment: Christians need not demonize every non-Christian source. General revelation means that God can speak through creation, reason, conscience, imagination, and culture, even though special revelation in Christ remains supreme.Receiving Without Syncretism: The church has often received and purified cultural goods without collapsing them into the gospel. The task is not to baptize everything, but to discern gold from dross.Classical Education as Formation: Markos contrasts true classical education with both progressivism and dead classicism. The goal is not mere drill, novelty, or college prep, but the formation of wisdom, virtue, eloquence, and rightly ordered loves.A Joyful School Culture: In a healthy classical Christian school, students show confidence without cockiness, courtesy without stiffness, joy in learning, and a sense that they belong to a larger conversation.Questions & DiscussionWhat does it mean to “pass the torch” of the classical Christian tradition?Consider how Markos received the tradition through family, teachers, books, and mentors. Who helped hand this inheritance to you, and how might you hand it on to others?How should Christians read pagan classics with discernment?Discuss the difference between receiving what is true, good, and beautiful and uncritically baptizing everything in a culture. What examples from Homer, Plato, Virgil, or Dante help clarify this distinction?Why is the distinction between general revelation and special revelation so important?Reflect on how creation, conscience, reason, imagination, and culture can prepare people for the gospel while still requiring fulfillment in Christ and Scripture.What dangers come from both dead classicism and progressivism?Compare a school that treats drill as an end in itself with one that treats novelty, utility, or ideology as the goal. What would a living tradition look like instead?What would you hope to see in the halls of a healthy classical Christian school?Discuss Markos’s description of students marked by joy, confidence, courtesy, humility, vocabulary, quiet order, and participation in the great conversation. Which of these signs is most needed in your own context?Suggested Reading & ResourcesPassing the Torch by Louis MarkosFrom Achilles to Christ: Why Christians Should Read the Pagan Classics by Louis ...
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    1 Std. und 34 Min.
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