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The Christopher Perrin Show

The Christopher Perrin Show

Von: Christopher Perrin
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Dr. Christopher Perrin has been a leader in the renewal of classical education in the United States for 25 years. In this podcast, he traces the renewal of the American paideia exploring the recent history of the American renaissance in light of the 2500 years that have preceded it. Christopher is the founding CEO of Classical Academic Press and the founder of ClassicalU.com. The Christopher Perrin Show is part of the TrueNorth.fm podcast network.©TrueNorth.fm Sozialwissenschaften
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  • Episode 62: Raising Sturdy Kids: Why Children Need Struggle, Courage, and Truth

    Episode 62: Raising Sturdy Kids: Why Children Need Struggle, Courage, and Truth
    Jun 30 2026
    Description In this episode of The Christopher Perrin Show, Christopher Perrin welcomes Keith McCurdy and Davies Owens for a conversation about Raising Sturdy Kids, Keith’s new book on forming strong families and capable children. McCurdy argues that children today are not naturally sturdier than previous generations, but are often more fragile—marked by rising anxiety, depression, diagnoses, medication, and difficulty coping with discomfort. Using the image of trees that need wind and weather to grow “stress wood,” he explains why children also need healthy, productive struggle in order to become flexible, durable, and mature. Davies Owens connects this need to the larger challenge facing parents today: many families are disconnected from extended-family wisdom, surrounded by competing voices, and unsure how to parent with clarity and courage. The conversation assesses the self-esteem movement, gentle parenting extremes, fear-based parenting, and the cultural lie that feelings are the most important part of who we are. Together, they call parents, schools, and churches back to a shared vision of maturity: the ability to choose what is right even when it is difficult, uncomfortable, or unwanted. The episode closes by highlighting practical resources for parents and schools, including Raising Sturdy Kids, Basecamp Live’s “Live Sturdy” conversations, and future ClassicalU resources.Episode OutlineIntroducing Raising Sturdy Kids and the need for strong families and capable childrenKeith McCurdy’s background in mental health, counseling, and work with familiesWhy children today are often more fragile than sturdyThe tree analogy: stress wood, wind, weather, and healthy struggleDavies Owens on parents, extended family, and the loss of generational wisdomBasecamp Live, Zipcast, and the “Live Sturdy” conversations with Keith McCurdyThe self-esteem movement and the story of the broken baseball trophyThe cultural lie that feelings are the most important part of who we areHelping students understand that emotions cannot reliably discern truthParenting by consensus and the dangers of following the crowdThe “three Ps”: problem, principles, and practical applicationMaturity as doing what is right when it is difficult, uncomfortable, or unwantedCourage as every virtue at its testingFamily, school, and church as a threefold partnership in forming sturdy childrenWhere to find Raising Sturdy Kids and related resourcesKey Topics & TakeawaysSturdiness Through Struggle: Children do not become strong by being protected from every hardship. Like trees exposed to wind and weather, they need appropriate stress in order to grow durable, flexible, and mature.Truthful Encouragement: The self-esteem movement often replaces real formation with artificial praise. Children need adults who speak truthfully about failure, growth, effort, and responsibility.Feelings and Reality: Emotions have value, but they cannot reliably distinguish fantasy from reality or truth from distortion. Children must learn to understand feelings without being ruled by them.Courage and Virtue: Virtues become real when they are tested. Courage gives virtue flesh by enabling students to practice what is right under pressure.Shared Formation: Families, schools, and churches need common language and shared principles if they are going to form children in wisdom, virtue, and maturity.Benevolent Authority: Loving discipline is not harsh authoritarianism. Parents are called to lead clearly, calmly, and lovingly, without allowing raw emotion to govern correction.Questions & DiscussionWhere are children in your community most protected from healthy struggle?Consider areas such as schoolwork, chores, athletics, friendship conflict, disappointment, consequences, and technology. What would a healthy, age-appropriate version of productive struggle look like?What is the difference between encouragement and false praise?Discuss the baseball trophy story. Why did the child instinctively reject praise that did not match reality, and how can adults be both truthful and encouraging?How should we teach children to understand their emotions without being ruled by them?Consider McCurdy’s examples of fear in an alley, fear in a dream, and fear while watching a movie. What do these examples reveal about feelings and truth?What does maturity look like in a child, teenager, or adult?Discuss McCurdy’s definition of maturity as doing what is right when it is difficult, uncomfortable, or unwanted. Where do you personally need courage to do what is right despite discomfort?How can parents, schools, and churches become a stronger threefold partnership?Consider what your school or church reinforces well and where families may be receiving mixed messages. What shared language would help create a thicker culture of formation?Suggested Reading & ResourcesRaising Sturdy Kids: Simple Truths for Building Strong Families and Capable Kids by Keith McCurdyThe Abolition ...
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    54 Min.
  • Episode 61: Hildegard College: Restoring Polymathy and Redemptive Entrepreneurship

    Episode 61: Hildegard College: Restoring Polymathy and Redemptive Entrepreneurship
    May 27 2026
    Description Christopher Perrin welcomes Dr. Matthew J. Smith, founder of Hildegard College, to discuss why he left a tenure-track literature career to build a deliberately small, relationship-centered “micro college” in Southern California. Smith describes modern higher education as expensive, bureaucratically bloated, and often unable to offer a unified vision of learning—especially when general education becomes a “Wild West” and majors drift toward professional specialization rather than formation. Hildegard’s alternative model centers on a common great-books curriculum organized around six foundational questions, paired with “entrepreneurial arts” that train students to design and launch real ventures rooted in meaningful work. The conversation explores why generalist formation matters in an AI-saturated economy, and why polymathy may be a more realistic pathway to flourishing than narrow specialization. Perrin and Smith then turn to Smith’s forthcoming book The Lost Tradition of Beauty, arguing that modern education has lost beauty as an intellectually serious category—reducing it to ornament or aesthetics rather than a transcendent that illuminates truth and shapes goodness. They close by discussing what it would mean for schools to recover beauty not merely in décor, but in the lived environment of learning: sound, space, attention, and shared life that draws students out of themselves and toward the whole.Episode OutlineSmith’s academic journey: graduate school motivations, love of the liberal arts, and entering college teachingThe problem in contemporary higher education: cost, debt, bureaucracy, specialization, and lack of a unified visionDiscovering the “alternative college” movement and visiting models (great-books and classical micro colleges)Why relationship matters: mentorship, friendship, shared curriculum, and non-anonymous learningHildegard College’s distinctives: one degree, one major, one shared curriculumThe six foundational questions that organize Hildegard’s great-books “Foundations of Thought” sequenceLiberal arts + entrepreneurial arts: “creative action” as redemptive work and practical formationWhy “Hildegard”: Hildegard of Bingen as a model polymath and cultural contributorStudent and faculty profiles: internships, civic partners, and bivocational teachersLiberal education in an AI economy: generalists, adaptability, and meaningful workThe Lost Tradition of Beauty: why beauty is intellectually muscular, objective, and formativeBeauty in schooling: beyond ornament to vocabulary, participation, attention, soundscape, and lived wholenessHow to learn more: admissions, preview weeks, and online “redemptive entrepreneurship” coursesKey Topics & TakeawaysHigher education often lacks a unified telos. A “comprehensive university” can produce radically different educational experiences across majors, without shared formation. Cost and debt intensify the crisis. Smith describes the economic burden alongside a weak “return” in both formation and earnings. Micro colleges can rebuild the human scale of learning. Smallness protects against anonymity and makes mentorship and accountability unavoidable. A common curriculum can generate a true academic fellowship. Shared books and shared questions create shared rites of passage and shared intellectual language.Polymathy is increasingly practical. As AI changes entry-level work, broad formation and transferable habits may matter more than narrow competencies. Entrepreneurship can be “creative action,” not mere profit-seeking. Hildegard frames entrepreneurship as participation in God’s redemptive work through building and service. Beauty is not optional decoration. Smith argues beauty is objective, rationally discussable, and essential to moral and intellectual renewal. Recovering beauty begins with recovering vocabulary. Schools cannot pursue what they cannot name, describe, and practice.Questions & DiscussionWhat is the “accidental shape” of higher education you’ve experienced—and what does it do to formation?What would a “unified vision for learning” look like in one concrete institutional decision?Why does relationship matter so much for transformational learning?Describe a time your learning changed because of mentorship or friendship rather than content alone. What are the strengths and limits of a single, common curriculum?What do students gain when everyone reads the same books and wrestles with the same questions? Are “polymaths” a luxury—or a necessity in an AI-shaped economy?How could schools cultivate breadth without becoming shallow (depth-through-few, long apprenticeships, layered skills)?What do you think of pairing great books with “entrepreneurial arts”?If students must build real things, what guardrails ensure the building remains ordered toward the good?Suggested Reading & ResourcesThe Lost Tradition of Beauty by Dr. Matthew J. Smith (...
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    1 Std. und 26 Min.
  • Episode 60: A Living Tradition: Classical Education Without Nostalgia

    Episode 60: A Living Tradition: Classical Education Without Nostalgia
    Apr 22 2026
    Description Christopher Perrin welcomes Dr. John Mark Reynolds for a extensive conversation about the renewal of classical education—and why the term classical often confuses more than it clarifies. Reynolds shares how family life, great teachers, and deep reading (especially C. S. Lewis and Plato) shaped his intellectual and spiritual journey, eventually drawing him into the classical Christian education movement. Together they explore how classical education is not nostalgia or narrow Greco-Roman elitism, but a living tradition rooted in wonder, dialectic, and a “great conversation” that has always been broader than the modern West. The conversation turns to virtue formation and liberal education, arguing that education should prepare students not only for work, but for judgment, sacrifice, and even death. Perrin and Reynolds also address how the classical movement can avoid becoming a guru-driven ideology, how it must remain open to science and modern technological change, and why false dichotomies distort educational debates. The episode closes with Reynolds’ vision for St. Constantine School, a K–16 “grown backward” model that integrates tutorial-style liberal arts education with practical formation for diverse vocations.Episode OutlineWhy the question “What is classical education?” is harder than it sounds (and why it matters for renewal)The paradox of learning: the more you know, the more you know you don’t know Reynolds’ early formation: pastoral family life, reading, and learning to “get to the bottom” of ideasInfluential teachers and the life of wonder: Plato, the Socratic habit, and learning as lifelong pursuitReturning to Christian faith and integrating faith with the life of the mindWhy the word “classical” can mislead: the tradition is global, multi-ethnic, and not limited to Greco-Roman textsClassical education as the “great conversation”: local cultures rooted in mother tongue, connected to a shared metaphysical realityThe liberal arts, virtue, and human freedom: what education once aimed at (and what modern credentialing often replaces)Education as preparation to live well—and to die well: Plato, Scripture, and the moral seriousness of formationAvoiding two dangers in the renewal: guruism and ideological “compounds”Science, technology, and modernity: why classical education must have room for Newton (and for contemporary scientific callings)St. Constantine’s model: tutorial liberal arts, K–16 integration, dual enrollment, and forming “souls fit for paradise”Where to learn more: St. Constantine’s website and ongoing workKey Topics & TakeawaysClassical education is bigger than the word “classical.” The tradition is not inherently ethnocentric; its sources and conversations span regions and cultures, including the Near East and Africa.Wonder and dialectic are central. Reynolds frames classical learning as rooted in Socratic inquiry and a habit of getting to the bottom of things.Liberal education aims at freedom and virtue. True liberty includes self-governance, responsibility, gratitude, and service—virtues modern schooling often thins into mere credentialing.Education should prepare students for ultimate realities. The conversation repeatedly returns to the claim that the one certainty is death, and education should form people who can face it with moral seriousness.The renewal must remain humble. Classical education collapses when it becomes guru-centric, novelty-driven, or triumphalist.Classical education must remain intellectually modern. A classical school should have room for mathematics, science, engineering, and technological prudence—not a nostalgic retreat from modernity.Multiple models are needed. St. Constantine is presented as one viable “iteration,” not the only faithful expression of classical education.Formation serves many vocations. Reynolds argues that tutorial-style liberal arts can prepare nurses, engineers, builders, and citizens—not only professors and “cocktail party” intellectuals.Questions & DiscussionWhat do you mean when you say “classical education” in your own context?List the assumptions you hear most often (elitist, Greco-Roman-only, anti-science, ethnocentric). Draft a two-sentence explanation that highlights both aims (virtue/wisdom) and methods(dialectic/great books/literacy).How should liberal education form freedom and virtue today?Contrast “credentialing” with “formation.” Where does your institution drift toward one over the other? What habits would actually train self-governance (attention, honesty, courage, sacrifice) in students?What does it mean to prepare students to die well?Discuss whether your curriculum implicitly prepares students for comfort and success more than moral endurance. Name one text, practice, or tradition that could restore seriousness about mortality, judgment, and ultimate goods.How can classical education avoid becoming an ideology or “...
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    1 Std. und 31 Min.
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