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What is a camp worth in today’s changing market? Season 7 of The Camp Owners Podcast kicks off with camp consultant Robert Lebby, who breaks down the current state of camp sales, valuations, buyer interest, and the financial forces shaping the industry. From understanding valuation multiples to navigating bank lending, owner financing, and preparing for a future sale, this episode is packed with practical insights for camp owners at any stage. Whether you’re thinking about selling now or simply planning for what comes next, this conversation will help you better understand the value of your camp and the market around it.

• 05:09 Meet Robert Lebby
• 08:06 Building Camp Owner Networks
• 10:30 Bankruptcy Fallout Explained
• 18:19 Buyer Interest Surges
• 26:53 Selling Prep And Finding Buyers
• 33:25 Market Shifts And Valuation Basics
• 36:03 Valuation Variables
• 37:23 Free Cash Explained
• 38:51 Multipliers and Ranges
• 42:29 Banks and Interest Rates
• 43:53 Owner Financing Basics
• 49:27 Tax Strategies and Depreciation
• 52:24 Private Equity in Camps
• 53:28 Industry Values and Transparency
• 58:02 Bankruptcy Valuations Recap
• 59:26 Selling Timeline Advice

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• Howie Grossinger - Co-owner/Director - Camp Robin Hood, Partner - Camp Walden & Madawaska Camps
• Kelly Schuna - Owner - Hidden Pines Ranch

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• Robert Lebby

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Launching a brand-new camp from scratch is no small feat, and in the final episode of season 6, Lauren Beckwith and Stacey Levy pull back the curtain on how they turned a shared vision into Camp Eastwood. Drawing on decades of experience at some of the industry’s most respected camps, they share practical insights on everything from designing age appropriate programming to creating culture, traditions and staff systems before the first camper even arrived. Whether you’re dreaming about starting a camp, refreshing your current program, or simply love hearing how great camp ideas come to life, this episode is packed with thoughtful leadership lessons and real world strategy. It’s an inspiring look at what it takes to build something meaningful from the ground up and why intentionality matters every step of the way.

• 04:52 Meet Camp Eastwood
• 06:58 Friendship Origin Story
• 10:06 Why Eastwood Exists
• 14:09 Property Site Setup
• 17:00 Timeline Roles Split
• 20:46 How They Got Asked
• 26:10 Building Program Philosophy
• 34:55 Designing For Young Kids
• 39:27 Forest Friends Values
• 41:37 Session Length Flexibility
• 43:04 Staff Training Approach
• 46:57 Reset Between Sessions
• 52:05 Developmental Programming Wins
• 54:18 Mentorship Leadership Lessons
• 56:51 Rapid Fire Favorites

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• Howie Grossinger - Co-owner/Director - Camp Robin Hood, Partner - Camp Walden & Madawaska Camps
• Kelly Schuna - Owner - Hidden Pines Ranch

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• Lauren Beckwith - Co-Director - Camp Eastwood
• Stacey Levy - Co-Director - Camp Eastwood

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Why do some staff shut down when given feedback and how can leaders break through? In this episode, your hosts sit down with Dave Brown, LCSW, to explore brain-aligned strategies that help young staff actually hear, process, and act on feedback. Listen in as they unpack the “mentor’s dilemma” and share practical tools like transparency statements, belonging stories, and low stakes check-ins that build trust while maintaining high standards. If you’re looking to strengthen your feedback culture without sacrificing relationships, this episode offers clear, actionable approaches you can start using right away.

• 07:00 From Social Work To Camp
• 08:21 Launching Fence Post Learning
• 11:40 Why Feedback Feels Hard
• 12:45 Mentor’s Dilemma
• 15:55 Fragility Causes
• 21:53 High Standards, High Support
• 26:04 Transparency Statements Tool
• 29:15 Building Feedback Culture
• 33:51 Training Middle Managers
• 36:29 Why Feedback Breaks Down
• 37:42 Trusting Others With Feedback
• 40:42 Why Connection Matters
• 46:04 Belonging Stories Tool
• 50:15 Balance Scale Support
• 53:52 Mentoring Campers

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• Howie Grossinger - Co-owner/Director - Camp Robin Hood, Partner - Camp Walden & Madawaska Camps
• Kelly Schuna - Owner - Hidden Pines Ranch

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• Dave Brown, LCSW - Founder - Fence Post Learning, Director - Mountain Camp

Coping Mechanisms from Fence Post Learning

10 to 25: The Science of Motivating Young People

Your staff work late into the night to create perfect camper schedules. Prevent mid-summer burnout with Camptivities — the smart scheduling software that saves time, reduces mistakes, and keeps your team energized. Find out more at camptivities.com

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