What if discipleship was less about learning more information about God and more about learning how to live with God?

In this episode of The Being Formed Podcast, Adam Ormord sits down with Debbie Swindoll — founder of Grafted Life Ministries and the Christ-Centered Spiritual Directors Association (CSDA). Together, they explore the difference between information-based discipleship and true spiritual formation that leads to transformation into Christlikeness.

Debbie shares her heart for the church, her concerns about the current state of discipleship, and her hope for a more relational, Spirit-led approach to formation. The conversation weaves together theology, lived experience, and pastoral wisdom, inviting listeners to reflect on their own journey of life with God.

They also celebrate CSDA’s 15-year journey — a global community of over 1,000 spiritual directors committed to Christ-centered spiritual direction, shared theological grounding, and ethical practice through a common code of conduct.

This episode is a gentle yet clarifying invitation: to slow down, to notice God’s presence, and to allow transformation to emerge from relationship rather than effort.

• The difference between knowing about God and living life with God

• Why many discipleship models struggle to produce lasting transformation

• How spiritual formation offers a more faithful and sustainable path

• Debbie’s group study, Life With God, and how churches are using it

• The vision and impact of the Christ-Centered Spiritual Directors Association (CSDA)

• Why theological grounding and community matter deeply for spiritual directors

• Where Debbie finds hope for the future of the church

• The practices that continue to form Debbie’s own life with God

• Grafted Life Ministries: https://www.graftedlife.org

• Christ-Centered Spiritual Directors Association (CSDA): https://www.graftedlife.org/csda/home/

• Life With God study by Debbie Swindoll (available via Grafted Life)

This conversation invites us to reconsider what we mean by discipleship — not as mastery of content, but as apprentices participating in a shared life with God. May it encourage you to listen more deeply, trust the slow work of the Spirit, and remain open to the ongoing formation happening in you.

The Being Formed Podcast is a soul care ministry of LifePoint Resources.

In this episode of The Being Formed Podcast, Adam Ormord (Founder of LifePoint Resources) is joined by author and ministry leader, Angie Day Peters, for a reflective conversation about spiritual freedom and transformation.

Centered on Angie’s book, Rooted Revolution: Embracing the Mess and the Mystery, this episode explores what happens when Jesus returns to the center of our lives—and how that re-centering opens the way for freedom in our relationship with Christ, within ourselves, and with others.

Special Bonus: At the 24:20 mark of the conversation, Adam shares his own prayer called “Somewhere in the Middle.” Be sure to listen to this part of the episode as a gentle reminder to return to what matters most.

• Why Jesus must be at the center of our churches and our formation
• How freedom flows from a rooted life in Christ
• Returning to love, presence, and wholeness
• The mess and the mystery of relational community

Rooted Revolution: Embracing the Mess and the Mystery by Angie Day Peters (Purchase on Amazon)

Learn more and connect with Angie at Unedited Life.

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The Being Formed Podcast is a soul care ministry of LifePoint Resources.

In this episode, Adam sits down with Stephen W. Smith, author and founder of The Potter’s Inn and a long-time voice in the world of soul care. Steve shares about his new book of poetry, Greening, and the inner awakening he’s been experiencing in recent years. Together, Adam and Steve explore the role of poetry in spiritual formation, the journey of discovering one’s true self, and the ongoing invitation to live from a deep heart.

• Author of many books on spiritual formation, soul care, and leadership health
• Founder (with his wife Gwen) of The Potter’s Inn, a ministry that profoundly influenced Adam’s own life and the formation of LifePoint Resources
• Longtime retreat leader and spiritual guide
• Writes regularly on Substack

• Greening: Poems in the Unfolding of Our Lives Stephen W. Smith (Purchase Hardcover and Kindle on Amazon)
• Potter's Inn (PottersInn.com)
• Steve’s Substack (Read and engage with Steve's latest work)

• How poetry opens the heart to God in unique ways
• Navigating seasons of transition and inner resurgence
• The spiritual symbolism of pilgrimage
• The urgent need for slowness in our chaotic world

The Being Formed Podcast is a soul care ministry of LifePoint Resources.