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Sink and Swim

Sink and Swim

Von: Julie Granger
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Sink into your truth, rewrite the story you were born to live, swim in your Soul’s purpose.


Sink AND Swim is a podcast for high-achieving Luminaires ready to break free from the “sink or swim” societal narratives that dictate the “right” ways to live, work, parent, and be.


By paddling furiously to stay afloat and conform to the corset of "sink or swim" narratives, we are pulled away from our deepest and most authentic stories.


This show illuminates the stories of Luminaires - gifted, talented, multidimensional, soul-led, and neurospicy people who have gone on the deep alchemical journey from telling a story of sink OR swim to sink AND swim.


Listeners are invited to “sink” into your raw, unfiltered stories, uncovering the gifts embedded in the parts of you that you were conditioned to hide and conform.


There, you'll find the buoyancy to “swim” - fully embracing the freedom to be who you are, live out your soul's purpose, and attract people and opportunities that honor you in your full expansiveness.


© 2026 Sink and Swim
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  • "I just need to be with kids" - On motherhood, youth sports PT, and what pediatrics gets right that adult medicine misses with Dr. Kari Lindegren
    Jun 24 2026

    Dr. Kari Lindegren is a physical therapist, educator, and swimmer who has spent her career working with youth athletes — specifically adolescent girls navigating pelvic health concerns. In this episode, she and Julie trace the through-line from Kari's childhood as the quiet, high-achieving "perfect student" who came fully alive only at the pool, through a series of cross-country moves, a job that was quietly breaking her, and the moment she walked into a children's hospital interview and said out loud: I just need to be here.

    What unfolds is a conversation about safety, belonging, and the cost of ignoring what your body already knows. Kari and Julie go deep on what pediatric medicine gets right about the whole human — and what adult medicine keeps missing — and how that shapes not just how Kari treats patients, but how she's learning to parent, let go of control, and step into the next chapter of her career: leaving one-on-one clinical work behind to educate other clinicians and multiply her impact.


    05:24 — The kid at the pool: growing up as the perfect student
    13:02 — Moving across the country when you hate change
    26:51 — The job that was quietly breaking her
    36:05 — What pediatrics gets right that adult medicine doesn't
    50:44 — Motherhood, control, and learning to let go
    57:36 — Stepping into education and what comes next

    Love what you hear and want to stay connected to Dr. Kari?

    Follow her on Instagram here

    Visit her website here

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    Social Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!

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    1 Std. und 15 Min.
  • Same Girl, Different Career (Again): Charmaine Horn on the Google search that launched her full send and full circle to land exactly where she started
    Jun 10 2026

    Charmaine Horn spent eight years as a psychiatric inpatient nurse before she did something a lot of us have done — Googled her way out of a spiral and accidentally found her life's work. What followed was a series of full-commitment pivots: personal trainer, certified life coach, weight loss coach, Qigong teacher, somatic coach, nervous system educator. Each one felt right until it didn't. Each one left her with something she didn't know she'd need later.

    In this conversation, Charmaine and Julie trace the through-line of a story that will feel uncomfortably familiar to a lot of women in healthcare and high-achieving careers — the dread that builds slowly, the body screaming what the brain won't say, the belief that one more career change will finally fix the feeling. And the moment you realize the medicine you keep trying to give everyone else is actually the medicine you need most.

    This one is funny, honest, and moves fast. Don't miss it.


    07:12 — From psychiatric nurse to "not this": the dread nobody talks about

    19:30 — The Google search that changed everything

    25:38 — Leaving nursing during a pandemic (and what the universe had to say about it)

    33:50 — When the pivot you were so sure about stops fitting

    37:22 — Finding Qigong: from knee injury to the thing that changed everything

    43:44 — Coming full circle: why none of it was wasted



    -- Love what you hear & want to stay connected to Charmaine?

    Read more of her story and about her work at her website here

    Find out What Nervous System State You're In - take the free quiz here

    Stay connected with Charmaine at @coachcharmainehorn on Instagram and Tiktok




    If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend


    👉Looking for more of where this came from?

    Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping Session

    Keep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or update

    Watch full video episodes and clips on Youtube

    Social Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!

    Instagram @drjuliegranger,

    Substack @drjuliegranger

    LinkedIn juliegrangerdpt





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    1 Std. und 7 Min.
  • Truth Lasagna: Your recipe for navigating loaded questions when you're between jobs, relationships, or chapters
    Jun 3 2026

    You're in the middle of something — a career pivot, a business transition, a relationship shift — and someone asks a perfectly innocent question like "How's life?" or "How's work going?" Your throat clenches. You either say too much or nothing at all, and walk away feeling like you lied either way.

    This solo episode introduces one of Julie's most-used client frameworks: Truth Lasagna. Rooted in her grandmother's wisdom — you can't tell everything you know — Truth Lasagna is a practical, body-based way to navigate the messy middle without oversharing, shutting down, or betraying yourself in the process. The framework is simple: your truth has layers, like lasagna. Your deepest, rawest, most unprocessed truth belongs to very few people. The middle layer is real and honest, but considered. The outer layer is brief, diplomatic, and true — it's just not everything. Choosing the right layer for the right person isn't hiding. It's discernment.

    Julie unpacks why high-achieving, empathetic women are especially prone to the all-or-nothing truth trap, how the fawn response quietly masquerades as dishonesty, and why ethically nondisclosing or withholding isn't the same as hiding parts of yourself or lying. You'll also learn about Truth Buckets — how to pre-sort who gets which layer of your truth, so you can stay connected to people without flooding the room or going silent.

    If you've ever avoided a networking event, a coffee date, or a family dinner because you didn't have a clean answer to a loaded question — or you've ever overexplained until you regretted it — or you've walked away from a conversation quietly wondering if you could have shared something better — this episode is for you.


    06:09 — Truth Lasagna: The Framework Your Grandmother Already Knew

    08:41 — The Wobbly Middle: Why Identity and Belonging Make This So Hard

    10:55 — The Fawn Response and What It's Actually Trying to Do

    18:23 — Oversharing Isn't Honesty — It's a Stress Response in Disguise

    30:15 — The Three Layers: Who Actually Gets Your Deepest Truth

    36:51 — Truth Buckets: Pre-Sorting People So You're Not Frozen in the Moment

    42:38 — How to Practice This When It Feels Messy and Imperfect

    If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend


    👉Looking for more of where this came from?

    Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping Session

    Keep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or update

    Watch full video episodes and clips on Youtube

    Social Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!

    Instagram @drjuliegranger,

    Substack @drjuliegranger

    LinkedIn juliegrangerdpt





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    56 Min.
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