The quietest lifesaving moments often happen between a slammed door and a deep breath. We sit down with crisis mental health clinician and SWAT negotiator Jessi Beyer to unpack what it really takes to bring a volatile scene down, earn trust in minutes, and move someone from danger toward safety. Jessie works nights alongside law enforcement on 911 calls involving suicidal ideation, psychosis, and severe substance use, and she opens up about the tools that work when nothing else seems to.

You’ll hear how a winding path from vet school to EMT to graduate studies in trauma and terrorism shaped a clinician who knows her lane and thrives in it. Jessi breaks down tips for de‑escalation you can use anywhere: matching tone without escalating, reflecting the exact pain under the behavior, and delivering the one line that can drop someone from a ten to a six. We talk about realistic definitions of success in crisis care, why “alive tonight” is often the right metric, and how clean handoffs and community resources reduce reliance on emergency rooms and revolving-door hospitalizations.

We also confront a blind spot: up to 75% of people who die by suicide see a primary care clinician within a year. Jessi offers practical, time‑smart suicide screening questions any clinician can use, along with ways to sit in discomfort and listen without rushing to fix. And for trauma survivors who don’t thrive with talk therapy, we explore evidence‑supported alternatives like dance/movement therapy, canine- and equine-assisted work, and ecotherapy, drawing from Jessi's book on natural therapies.

If you’re a clinician, student, or curious listener, this conversation delivers actionable skills, candid stories, and a humane framework for care under pressure. Subscribe, share with a colleague, and leave a review to tell us which de‑escalation tip you’ll try this week.

Connect with Jessi Beyer at:

Website: https://jessibeyerinternational.com/

Instagram: @itsjessibeyer

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What happens when the humanity of oncology collides with the creative engine of biotech? We sit down with Dr. Satya (Nanu) Das, a former gastrointestinal oncologist who left a thriving academic career to build the next generation of cancer therapies. He walks us through his turning points: carrying patients’ stories home, confronting the limits of “approved” treatments, and realizing that trial design (who gets included, what’s measured, and how fast signals are found) can change lives at scale.

We define biotech, from large biopharma to smaller startups, and how clinicians fit into two powerful tracks: clinical development, where protocols are designed and drugs move from first-in-human to pivotal studies; and medical affairs, where data becomes real-world practice through education and access. Dr. Das shares why oncology is inherently experimental, how phase boundaries are blurring, and why targeting biology instead of tumor labels opens doors for rare and understudied cancers. The conversation also gets personal: the emotional calculus of reconciling individual disappointment with collective success, and the courage it takes to “bet on yourself” when outcomes aren’t guaranteed.

If you’ve wondered whether a move from clinic to industry means leaving patients behind, you’ll hear a different story: one where debate beats hierarchy, evidence beats eminence, and collaboration is the default. We compare the instant gratification of patient care with the slower, high-stakes creativity of drug development, explore policy’s role in FDA consistency, and highlight how patient narratives can keep standards focused on what truly matters.

Subscribe, share with a colleague who’s biotech-curious, and leave a review! If you are a practicing clinician, a pre-health, pre-med, pre-pa or pre-nursing student, or someone who is interested in how our drugs are made, you'll want to give this a listen.

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What if your hardest seasons became the fuel for your life’s most meaningful work? We sit down with Dr. Oluwole Babatunde, a physician who turned early loss, cross-continental training, and relentless study into a compassionate career in psychiatry. From medical school and public health in Nigeria to a PhD in epidemiology and psychiatry residency in the United States, his story shows how purpose and discipline can shape resilience that lasts.

We explore how global research exposure sharpened his analytics, how humility and grit powered a move that meant starting over, and why psychiatry emerged as the place where his lived experience meets his clinical skill. Dr. Babatunde opens up about cases where depression and anxiety intertwine with life stressors like job loss, divorce, and homelessness, and how listening for the trigger matters as much as the treatment plan. He shares what faith looks like in practice without preaching: values that guide every interaction, quiet habits that sustain hope, and the simple, sincere goal of sending patients out ready to be the best version of themselves.

You’ll also get a tour of his book, Adapt and Advance, and its MAPLAMP framework. We break down how to find meaning in hardship, convert big dreams into daily actions, plan with clarity, build networks that protect your growth, and anchor your work in a personal mission. If you’ve ever wondered how to hold steady through change, or how faith and evidence can coexist in mental health care, this conversation offers both a philosophy and a toolkit you can use today.

If this episode sparks something for you, follow the show, share it with a friend who needs encouragement, and leave a review to help others find these stories. Your support helps us bring more human, practical conversations to your feed every week.

To hear more about Dr. Babatunde, please visit his website.

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Virtual shadowing is an important tool to use when planning your medical career. At Shadow Me Next! we want to provide you with the resources you need to find your role in healthcare and secure your place in medicine.

Check out our pre-health resources. Great for pre-med, pre-PA, pre-nursing, pre-therapy students or anyone else with an upcoming interview!
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