Laura and author Lisa Peers discuss Detroit's influence on music, rock inspired novels, where rock stars do their laundry and a bagpipe infused cover of a song originally recorded by a Dutch Elvis impersonator. Songs this episode include Rod Stewart's "Rhythm of My Heart," Sting's "Fortress Around Your Heart," Wilson Philip's "Hold On" and The Surfaris "Wipe Out." Plus they talk about Lisa's new novel Motor City Love Song.

In Episode 12 of the Saturn's Favorite Music podcast, Justin and Jane return to revisit songs about the seas. Justin explains why he is not a fan of the title of the Little River Band's "Cool Change." We discuss days of the week songs with the Mamas and the Papas' "Monday Monday." We go acoustic with Jim Croce's "Operator" and peak 1992 adult contemporary with Celine Dion's "If You Asked Me To." Resident horse expert Jane explains how many hands it takes to measure a typical horse. (Hint: More than five.)

Jenny Hunter is back for an episode that is surprisingly upbeat for a set of songs that cover the temporal nature of existence, nostalgia and the end of the world as we know it. Also Leonard Bernstein. Songs include Al Stewart's "Year of the Cat" and "Time Passages," Chicago's "Beginnings" and R.E.M.'s "It's the End of the World As We Know It (and I Feel Fine)," the only track that is less than six minutes long, but which makes up for it with the length of its title. Jenny talks about the best moments at Chicago concerts and Laura and Jenny explore whether there is a reference to Trump in a 1987 R.E.M. song.