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In this conversation, Crow shares her spiritual journey, detailing her transition from a Catholic upbringing to exploring various spiritual practices, including Norse paganism and shamanism. The discussion delves into the significance of animism in her practices, the common themes across different spiritualities, and the importance of selfless service in her work. Crow emphasizes the need for vulnerability and openness in spiritual healing, highlighting the role of the practitioner as a conduit for spiritual connection rather than a sole healer. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the complexities of spirituality, the importance of open-mindedness, and the challenges of navigating public judgment. They discuss the significance of authenticity in spiritual practices, the hijacking of genuine healing methods by commercial interests, and the value of community and trade in fostering genuine connections. The conversation emphasizes the need for discernment when seeking spiritual guidance and the importance of remembering one's spiritual path rather than striving for an unattainable elevation. In this conversation, the participants discuss various aspects of podcasting, including editing techniques, guest selection, recording challenges, and the philosophy behind content creation. They share insights on how to manage interviews effectively, the importance of technical skills in recording, and the value of collaboration in producing engaging content. The conversation also touches on future guests and the organization of shared resources related to Norse traditions and storytelling.