Are you chasing success… or building something that actually lasts? In this episode of Real Relationships Real Revenue, I sit down with Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe to unpack why it’s often harder to sustain success than it is to achieve it in the first place. We dive into what separates high performers who burn out from those who stay at the top over the long haul, including how to design your life and business with intention instead of running on autopilot. We talk about control versus chaos, why rest is not a reward but a performance strategy, and how the most elite performers build systems of support instead of trying to do everything alone.

We also explore what it really takes to stay adaptable in a fast-moving world. This conversation goes beyond productivity hacks and gets into the deeper frameworks that help you show up calm, clear, and effective. If you’ve ever felt stretched thin, stuck in “go mode,” or unsure how to keep growing without sacrificing your health, relationships, or impact, this episode will shift the way you think about success.

Topics We Cover in This Episode:

• Why peak performance has more to do with design than discipline

• The hidden habit high achievers use to avoid burnout

• What most people get wrong about “working harder”

• How to spot the early warning signs of unsustainable success

• The surprising link between values and adaptability

• What elite performers build behind the scenes that others ignore

• How to create momentum without living in constant urgency

If this conversation resonates with you, make sure to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone who’s striving for more but wants to do it the right way.

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What if grit isn’t about pushing harder but about knowing when to pivot, pause, and play the long game? In this episode, I sit down with Joel Goldberg, longtime Kansas City Royals announcer, speaker, and author, to pull back the curtain on what high-performing athletes can teach us about resilience, failure, and sustained success in business and life. Drawing from decades inside professional sports, Joel shares the real, behind-the-scenes moments you never see in post-game interviews… the slumps, the setbacks, and the quiet decisions that separate those who burn out from those who endure.

We dig into what it actually means to “manage failure,” why baseball might be the ultimate teacher of resilience, and how grit shows up in unexpected ways. Along the way, Joel shares unforgettable stories of players who refused to quit, leaders who stayed disciplined when no one was watching, and the mindset shifts that allow people to keep moving forward when the outcome feels uncertain.

Topics We Cover in This Episode:

• Why failure isn’t the problem, but how you process it might be

• The hidden habits elite performers rely on long before success shows up

• How to tell the difference between working harder and working smarter

• What “grit” really looks like behind the scenes of professional sports

• Why rest, recovery, and off-seasons are strategic, not lazy

• The subtle ways resilience shows up in relationships and trust-building

• How staying open to new approaches can change your entire trajectory

If this conversation sparked something in you, don’t let it end here. Take a moment to reflect on where you might be chasing the same result the same way and what your next move could be instead. Share this episode with someone who’s in the middle of a tough season, and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss future conversations on real relationships, real resilience, and real growth.

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In this episode, I sit down with Andrew Robertson, former CEO and current Chairman of BBDO and author of The Creative Shift, to unpack why creativity gets squeezed out of adults, teams, and organizations and what it actually takes to bring it back. We talk about the difference between innovation and true creation, why most brainstorming fails, and how businesses unintentionally shut down their people’s most powerful ideas. Andrew shares the research, stories, and real-world lessons behind some of the most iconic campaigns of our time and why creativity is not reserved for “creative people,” but for anyone solving meaningful problems.

We also go deep into the practical side. Andrew breaks down BBDO’s famous Workout process, a structured and repeatable way to unlock breakthrough ideas in any organization. Along the way, we explore unforgettable stories from Snickers to Guinness to hard-earned failures that reveal how great ideas are actually discovered, protected, and brought to life.

Topics We Cover in This Episode:

• Why innovation alone rarely creates real competitive advantage

• The surprising reason most teams believe they are “not creative”

• How redefining the problem can unlock entirely new solutions

• Why generating bad ideas is a critical step toward great ones

• The mindset shift that helps leaders evaluate risk without playing it safe

• How iconic ideas are often hidden in plain sight

• What most brainstorming sessions get wrong

• The conditions that allow creativity to thrive inside real organizations

If you are leading a team, growing a business, or feeling stuck repeating what has always worked, this episode will challenge how you think about creativity and what is possible when you design for it on purpose. Tune in, listen closely, and ask yourself what could change if you stopped asking for one good idea and started creating space for many.

Resources Mentioned:

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Link to Andrew’s Book The Creative Shift: https://a.co/d/hVrfaHr

Andrew Robertson Outlines Principles of Business Development Success: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/real-relationships-real-revenue-video-edition-invest/id1504330338?i=1000565194906