In this special, off-script episode of the Ranch Stewards Podcast, host Haylie Shipp flips the mic and interviews Megan Torgerson, founder and host of Reframing Rural, an award-winning documentary podcast that centers the voices and lived experiences of rural people and places. Now in its fourth season, Reframing Rural is focused on succession planning, an issue deeply important to ranching families and to the Ranchers Stewardship Alliance.

Haylie and Megan talk about how Reframing Rural got started, Megan’s background growing up on a farm in northeast Montana, and why rural stories are so often misunderstood or oversimplified in mainstream media. They also dig into the emotional realities of succession planning including family dynamics, communication, legacy, and the weight of passing the baton.

Following the conversation, listeners are invited to hear Episode 1 of Season 4 of Reframing Rural, an intimate and powerful story featuring Howie Hammond and his daughter Andrea Lien near Malta, Montana. The Hammond family are longtime supporters of the Ranchers Stewardship Alliance, and their story is one we hold especially dear.

In This Episode You Will Hear:

• How Reframing Rural grew out of Megan’s academic work and lived experience
• What mainstream media often misses about agriculture and rural life
• The real statistics and realities around farm and ranch succession
• Why emotion, vulnerability, and storytelling are essential to succession conversations
• The diagnosis that accelerated the Hammond family’s succession planning
• The emotional weight of legal and financial meetings when time feels short
• A daughter's fear of being the generation that loses the ranch
• Why “equal is not always fair” and why the ranch has to come first

Guest Bios

Megan Torgerson
Megan is the founder and host of Reframing Rural, an award-winning documentary podcast sharing nuanced stories of rural people and places. She grew up on a farm and ranch near Dagmar, Montana, and began the podcast in 2019 to challenge oversimplified narratives about rural life. Reframing Rural is now in its fourth season.

Howie Hammond
Howie has farmed and ranched for more than 45 years in Montana’s Milk River Valley near Malta. Alongside his wife JoAnn, he built a family operation spanning thousands of acres of rangeland and cropland. Following a rare muscle disease diagnosis, Howie became a vocal advocate for early succession planning and mentors families across Montana.

Andrea Lien
Andrea manages Hammond Ranch with her husband Wyatt and her parents Howie and JoAnn. After earning a business degree from Rocky Mountain College and working in finance, she returned home to continue her family’s agricultural legacy.

The Ranchers Stewardship Alliance (RSA) is a rancher-led, grassroots organization, dedicated to improving the quality of life for rural communities throughout the Northern Great Plains. Through collaborative conservation projects, rancher education events, and local community outreach, RSA works to strengthen our rural community, economy, and culture for generations to come.

For more on the Ranchers Stewardship Alliance, head to www.RanchStewards.org and follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Your feedback is always welcome. Email info@ranchstewards.org. Want to support our mission? Visit https://ranchstewards.charityproud.org/Donate.

In this episode of the Ranch Stewards Podcast, we dig into the growing world of agritourism and how creative ideas can bring new opportunities to working lands. From educational offerings to niche on-the-ground experiences, agritourism is becoming an increasingly valuable way for farms and ranches to diversify and connect with visitors in meaningful ways.

Guests Shannon Arnold and Tamara Robertson join the conversation to talk about what agritourism looks like in Montana today, how producers get started, and why interest in these kinds of enterprises continues to grow across farm and ranch country.

Guests

Dr. Shannon Arnold

Professor of Extension and Non-Formal Education
Montana State University
A quiet powerhouse behind Montana’s agritourism movement, Shannon has spent years building programs, gathering resources, and helping producers explore what’s possible. Her work has opened the door for agritourism to grow statewide.

Tamara Robertson

Wandering Acres
Forsyth, Montana
Tamara and her family run a cow-calf operation — and they added an unexpected twist: a niche flower farm that has grown into a unique agritourism experience in eastern Montana. Her story shows the creativity and adaptability that make agritourism so promising.

What We Talk About

• What agritourism is and the wide range of activities it can include
• Agritourism as an added revenue stream for working operations
• Real producer perspectives on branching into agritourism
• Why charging for experiences can feel uncomfortable
• Insurance considerations when welcoming visitors onto the land
• How people discover agritourism businesses
• The creation of the Montana Agritourism Association

Resources & Links

• Montana Agritourism: MontanaAgritourism.com

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The Ranchers Stewardship Alliance (RSA) is a rancher-led, grassroots organization, dedicated to improving the quality of life for rural communities throughout the Northern Great Plains. Through collaborative conservation projects, rancher education events, and local community outreach, RSA works to strengthen our rural community, economy, and culture for generations to come.

For more on the Ranchers Stewardship Alliance, head to www.RanchStewards.org and follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Your feedback is always welcome. Email info@ranchstewards.org. Want to support our mission? Visit https://ranchstewards.charityproud.org/Donate.