Mick, aged 88, has dedicated his life to his community through his work, sports, local government, and volunteering.

In this conversation, we talk about growing up during difficult times, learning to push through setbacks and why sport and community became central to his life.

We discuss leadership as being accessible and honest, doing the work without seeking recognition and what becomes less important as you get older.

Matt is a teacher and footy coach who spends his days responsible for kids, parents, and the systems that come with that.

In this conversation, we talk about what teaching and coaching actually involve, what surprises you when you’re entrusted with young people, and where good intentions from adults can start to get in the way.

We cover repetition, feedback that sticks, how confidence forms over time, and why sometimes the best thing you can do for a kid is not step in too fast.

Allen’s working life has unfolded across countries, industries, and repeated restarts.

In this conversation, we talk about growing up around a family business, experiencing early instability, and how responsibility shapes decision-making before confidence has caught up. We explore redundancy, starting over, and what it takes to keep going when outcomes feel beyond your control.

This episode focuses on persistence, restraint, and learning to progress without a clear foundation.