In this episode of Qonversations, Edosa Odaro joins host Brian Gorman for a clear-eyed conversation about what it actually takes to make AI work for people and performance. Edosa, author of The Values of Artificial Intelligence: How Smart Leaders Capture and Connect AI Value to Human Values, makes a simple but often ignored point. Successful AI initiatives rarely begin with technology. They begin with people. With clarity about purpose. With alignment around what “value” truly means.

Too many organizations rush toward AI for speed, automation, or cost reduction. The technology may function, but the value fails because financial metrics were treated as the only definition of success. Edosa explains how misalignment shows up in predictable ways: when lab performance doesn’t translate to real-world results, when pilots don’t scale, when early wins don’t sustain, and when stakeholders define value in fundamentally different terms.

The conversation explores how leaders can avoid those traps by creating cross-functional value teams, developing tools that translate technical capability into human impact, aligning incentives and metrics across functions, and building a shared language around value before writing a single line of code. They also confront a larger shift: as AI commoditizes intelligence, discernment becomes the differentiator. If machines can optimize decisions, leaders must decide what outcomes are worth optimizing in the first place.

Brian describes Edosa’s framework as the kind of guide every leader should keep on their desk and revisit often not because it simplifies AI, but because it sharpens judgment. This episode is a practical, grounded roadmap for leaders who want AI to create genuine human-AI win-wins rather than expensive lessons.

In this episode of Qonversations, New Market Advisors Managing Director Steve Wunker joins host Brian Gorman to explore artificial intelligence through an unexpected lens: evolution. Drawing on the book AI and the Octopus Organization: Building the Superintelligent Firm (co-authored by Steve and Amazon Futurist in Residence Jonathan Brill), the conversation uses contrasting stories of the ammonite and the octopus to examine why too many of today’s organizations are at risk of not surviving. The ammonite relied on rigid armor and disappeared when conditions changed. The octopus survived by sensing, learning, and responding quickly, an analogy that becomes a powerful framework for understanding how leaders need to reshape organizations today in response to AI.

Rather than treating AI as a productivity tool or standalone technology, Steve and Brian explore it as a catalyst for deeper systemic change on the scale of the printing press or steam engine. They discuss how AI can decentralize decision-making, improve visibility across organizations, and free people from administrative overload, while also increasing the demand for human judgment, trust, and leadership. The conversation highlights the leadership work required in an AI-infused world: balancing analytical insight with emotional and intuitive intelligence, creating psychological safety during rapid change, and helping people stay anchored when familiar structures no longer hold.

This episode is for leaders who sense that AI is changing everything and know that adaptability, not armor, will determine what comes next.

Dr. Trisha Vinatieri, clinical psychologist and Chief Well-Being Officer, joins Brian Gorman for a grounded conversation on burnout not as an individual resilience problem, but as a leadership responsibility. Burnout is often treated as inevitable or as a workload issue to be solved by “doing less.” This conversation challenges that assumption. Trisha and Brian explore how leaders are uniquely positioned to prevent burnout through how work is designed, how purpose is protected, and how people are seen and heard without reducing the work itself. Drawing from Trisha’s work in healthcare systems and Brian’s leadership advisory practice, the episode reframes burnout as a signal of misalignment rather than personal failure. Together, they unpack what leaders can notice earlier, what conversations matter most, and how small shifts in attention, listening, and job design can restore energy and engagement. Burnout is not prevented by doing less. It is prevented when leaders create the conditions for people to do the right work, with clarity, purpose, and dignity. (27 min.)