Hi SweetSmarties, this month I got to interview my local children's librarian! I've loved libraries and wanted to interview a librarian, specifically one focused on children's literacy, for a long time! Fun fact about me: I currently have 8 active library cards just for different districts around Southern California. 🤓

We talk about his background and path to this work, what he loves about his job, why he chose this, what it means to him, his approach to nurturing the wonderful children in our community as well as his own at home, and his perspective on other profound topics I'm excited for you to hear! I of course shared my own experiences and philosophies, including referencing a few past episodes, which was nice for me to be able to do. This is my 15th interview, and I'm hoping to do 30, so if I fulfill that plan, I'm halfway there now! 🎉

I hope you enjoy listening to us learn, share, and bond with each other! We'd had brief interactions since I first published this project, but this was our first long, deep conversation. I had a fantastic time, and I hope you benefit a lot from our discussion! 📚

I look forward to connecting further as we continue this journey together. 💖

Genuinely,

T.J. Campbell

Hi SweetSmarties! Here's the second part of my interview with Dr. Judy Y. Chu!

As you'll hear in the prologue I recorded for you, last episode we talked about my connection to her work, her background and path to it, her study observations regarding the gender socialization of a group of young boys from pre-Kindergarten to Kindergarten and then briefly in 1st and 3rd grade, and how human qualities are restrictively and inaccurately gendered, wishing they wouldn't be at all, and instead seen as available and potentially applicable to everyone, depending on what each individual discovers is true for them. :)

In this episode, we discuss practical ways to free yourself of these restrictions, or at least reduce the pressure you may feel to conform to societal norms, and then we talk about some of my Sarah Lawrence education, including one of my favorite conference projects I ever did. 🤓

I hope you enjoy listening to our conversation, and that you find the experience beneficial as always. 😇

Thank you so much for being here, and I look forward to speaking to you next time! 💖

Hi SweetSmarties, I'm so excited to share my interview with Dr. Judy Y. Chu! Her work is really important to me, and her book, When Boys Become Boys: Development, Relationships, & Masculinity is my favorite of all the literary sources I've read in my Progressive Parenting Project research. She was also in one of my favorite documentaries, The Mask You Live in, by the Representation Project. I rewatched it recently, 10 years after I first saw it, and I still found it very impactful, so I recommend you read Judy's book and watch that documentary, if you're interested in Gender Socialization, particularly how it begins in children and how certain aspects of it can be restrictive.

Our interview lasted over 2 hours, so I divided it into 2 parts, and recorded a little epilogue for you explaining that at the end of this episode. You'll probably notice Judy's and my audio sound really different, and that's because not only did we conduct our conversation remotely, but unfortunately her microphone on her wired ear phones rubbed against her hair and clothes the whole time, so I did my best to remove those rustling sounds. As a result, her voice sounds kind of far away, or like I recorded a phone call on speaker or something. I tried my best to normalize the volume, and align our voices, after editing our audio tracks separately, so I'm sorry if it doesn't sound ideal, but trust me, this is a lot better than it sounded originally. lol

Anyway, in this first part I speak about how significantly her work impacted me, she speaks about her background and path to this field, we talk about our interpretations of Progressive Parenting, her 2 year study from her book, specifically the changes she noticed in the young boys she interviewed in terms of their masculinity development between the ages of 4 and 5 (as well as briefly at 6 and 8), and how we believe many aspects of our humanity should not be gendered, like personality traits, behaviors, emotions, interests, activities, etc.

In the next part, we discuss how to navigate the world as it is, while still striving for improvement, my conference work from my Sociology of Education class, touching on the ideas of Pluralistic Ignorance and the Dyadic Power Thesis, and we end by expressing our appreciation for each other, and how much we enjoyed our interaction. :)

Lastly, my epilogue sounds the way it does, because I'm a little sick right now (8/20/25 when I recorded it and when I'm publishing this episode), so that explains the contrast between the way I am in the interview on 8/11/25. I hope you enjoy listening to this part of our discussion, and the next part I'll release on 8/28! Thank you! Talk to you then! :D

P.S. I remembered during the interview that the linguistic dichotomy I was referring to is Prescriptivism vs Descriptivism, and thought about mentioning it, but didn’t want to interrupt our flow, so I decided to just include it here. 😄