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Most law firm owners pour years into building their practice—only to realize they haven’t created a firm that’s truly sellable or scalable. Too often, retirement or an unforeseen event exposes just how unprepared the business is for a profitable exit.

In this episode, Moshe Amsel sits down with Pam Meissner, a seasoned financial and operational leader who now guides law firm owners to greater profitability and exit readiness. Pam, COO at Cathcap, brings decades of experience helping entrepreneurs and law firms build businesses worth buying.

Whether you dream of selling your firm, passing it to a partner, or simply want it to run (and grow) without you, this episode breaks down actionable strategies and frameworks—so you don’t just work in your firm, you build something valuable.

Resources mentioned:

🚀 Ready to Double Your Take-Home Pay and Cut Your Hours in Half In Your Solo Law Practice?

Most solo attorneys stay stuck on the “revenue rollercoaster” - long hours, inconsistent income, and no clear path out of it.

If you want a proven roadmap to escape that cycle and build predictable growth, it starts with a Free Law Firm Growth Call.

In just 30 minutes, you’ll walk away with:

✔️ A custom 12-month growth roadmap for your firm

✔️ Clarity on exactly what’s holding you back

✔️ Step-by-step actions to create predictable, scalable growth

👉 Book your free session here: https://profitwithlaw.com/strategysession

Don’t wait - these spots fill fast every week.

Take the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner!

Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!

Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program here

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Unreasonable Hospitality: The Remarkable Power of Giving People More Than They Expect by Will Guidara

Main Street Millionaire: How to Make Extraordinary Wealth Buying Ordinary Business by Codie Sanchez

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https://www.profitwithlaw.com/blog/1-5mm-in-12-months-the-blueprint

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Shownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/516.

Most law firm owners don’t have a revenue problem — they have a pricing and leverage problem.

In Part 2 of this 5-part series, Moshe breaks down why the way most lawyers price their services quietly caps profit, growth, and freedom — and what to do instead as you head into 2026.

This episode zooms out from tactics and focuses on the business mechanics of a profitable firm: how pricing becomes a growth lever, why the billable hour holds firms back, and how alternative fee models unlock more revenue with less strain on your team.

You’ll hear how undercharging creeps in (especially for solo and growing firms), why fear—not math—drives most pricing decisions, and how owners who fix this one lever create more capacity, better margins, and a better client experience at the same time.

This isn’t about charging more just to charge more.

It’s about building a firm that can actually sustain growth, hire the right people, and serve clients at a higher level.

If 2026 is the year you stop working harder for the same results, this episode will reframe how you think about pricing, value, and profitability.

Resources mentioned:

🚀 Ready to Double Your Take-Home Pay and Cut Your Hours in Half In Your Solo Law Practice?

Most solo attorneys stay stuck on the “revenue rollercoaster” - long hours, inconsistent income, and no clear path out of it.

If you want a proven roadmap to escape that cycle and build predictable growth, it starts with a Free Law Firm Growth Call.

In just 30 minutes, you’ll walk away with:

✔️ A custom 12-month growth roadmap for your firm

✔️ Clarity on exactly what’s holding you back

✔️ Step-by-step actions to create predictable, scalable growth

👉 Book your free session here: https://profitwithlaw.com/strategysession

Don’t wait - these spots fill fast every week.

Law Firm Growth Workshop: profitwithlaw.com/lfg2026

Book your FREE strategy session today!: profitwithlaw.com/strategysession

Take the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner!

Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!

Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program here

Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/

To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.

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LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

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Shownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/515.

Most law firm owners struggle to grow because they look and sound like everyone else.

In this episode of the Profit with Law Podcast, Moshe talks with John Rizvi — The Patent Professor — about how branding became one of the biggest drivers behind building a $10M+ national patent law firm.

John didn’t grow by copying what other firms were doing. He grew by making a clear decision about who he wanted to be in the market — and then backing it up everywhere clients interacted with his firm.

If your marketing feels interchangeable, your website could belong to any firm in your city, or your growth has stalled despite spending more on ads, this conversation will help you see why.

Resources mentioned:

🚀 Ready to Double Your Take-Home Pay and Cut Your Hours in Half In Your Solo Law Practice?

Most solo attorneys stay stuck on the “revenue rollercoaster” - long hours, inconsistent income, and no clear path out of it.

If you want a proven roadmap to escape that cycle and build predictable growth, it starts with a Free Law Firm Growth Call.

In just 30 minutes, you’ll walk away with:

✔️ A custom 12-month growth roadmap for your firm

✔️ Clarity on exactly what’s holding you back

✔️ Step-by-step actions to create predictable, scalable growth

👉 Book your free session here: https://profitwithlaw.com/strategysession

Don’t wait - these spots fill fast every week.

Law Firm Growth Workshop: profitwithlaw.com/lfg2026

Take the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner!

Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!

Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program here

Connect with John Rizvi: Website | YouTube | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram

If You Brand It, They Will Come by John Rizvi

https://www.thelawfirmgrowthprofessor.com/

Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/

To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.

Connect with Moshe on:

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amsel

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/