www.sugarspiceandspirits.com for our newsletter, show topics and ideas.

www.insidethewhy.com to reach out to Mindy for coaching or speaking.

www.nataliepilkinton.com to work with Natalie, Realtor, Real Estate Investing and Real Estate Coaching

We start with a margarita we may or may not be calling the “Baby-Making Margarita” (and yes… it might also be the “Call an Uber” margarita).

Then we go deep into a conversation a lot of people avoid:

how our beliefs about having kids change over time, why more people are choosing childfree, what infertility is really like emotionally, how faith plays into the waiting, and the very real “is it too late?” panic.

This episode may be triggering for some. We’re not doctors—if this topic hits close to home, please talk to your physician or a licensed professional.

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💬 Question for you: Have your feelings about kids changed as you’ve gotten older?

Resources mentioned (for show notes):

BetterHelp (Online therapy platform) https://www.betterhelp.com Mentioned as an option for finding mental health support if the episode brings up difficult emotions.

Talkspace (Online therapy platform) https://www.talkspace.com Mentioned as an online option for connecting with a therapist.

Psychology Today Therapist Directory (Online directory) https://www.psychologytoday.com Mentioned as a place to search for and find a therapist.

Pew Research Center (Research organization)

https://www.pewresearch.org Cited as the source for statistics about adults who are unlikely to have children and reasons why.

Waiting in Hope (Faith-based nonprofit/charity) https://waitinginhope.org

Referenced as a church-connected resource offering support and materials for people on an infertility journey.

RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (Organization) https://resolve.org Mentioned as a resource for infertility support and information.

Pregnancy After Loss Support (Organization) https://pregnancyafterlosssupport.org Mentioned as a resource for support after miscarriage or pregnancy loss.

Cheers to you—whatever your journey is.

Chapters / timeline (based on your transcript)

00:00 Welcome back (Mindy, Kelly, Natalie)

00:08 “Baby-Making Margarita” + newsletter tease

01:42 Disclaimer + why this topic matters

03:00 How perspectives shift: from “everyone should” to “it’s okay not to”

06:30 Kelly’s pregnancy experience (no glam photos 😂)

09:00 Natalie: pregnancies, delivery trauma, and “bonus baby”

13:20 Kelly: worry, legacy pressure, choice vs. “can’t”

16:50 Support resources + validating the feelings

17:30 Pew stats: reasons people don’t want children

21:32 Kids in public + the headphones PSA rant 🎧

25:13 New mom on a plane story + grace

30:49 “Maybe baby… is it too late?” and options today

34:44 Reading a friend’s infertility journey (faith + heartbreak)

40:39 Faith-based support resource: Waiting in Hope

42:38 Nutrition tangent: keto/fasting + fertility talk

48:44 What NOT to say: unsolicited advice that hurts

54:50 Solo parenting + support systems

57:39 Role models and mentorship (strong people around kids)

1:00:52 You’re not alone

1:01:11 Cheers + wrap

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