In this first Spanish-language episode of the Pachamama School Podcast / En este primer episodio en español en el Pachamama School Podcast , Xochitl Ashe and AnaDelia Rodríguez explore how every business is a living spirit that reflects its owner's consciousness / exploran cómo cada negocio es un espíritu vivo que refleja la consciencia de su dueño. For 20+ years, AnaDelia has guided entrepreneurs through the sacred intersection of numbers, consciousness, and commerce / Durante más de 20 años, AnaDelia ha guiado a emprendedores en la intersección sagrada entre números, consciencia y comercio. They discuss limiting beliefs blocking success, why financial clarity is spiritual practice, the five foundations of conscious business, and why win-win negotiations matter / Discuten creencias limitantes que bloquean el éxito, por qué la claridad financiera es práctica espiritual, los cinco fundamentos del negocio consciente, y por qué las negociaciones ganar-ganar importan.

Connect with AnaDelia Rodríguez / Conecta con AnaDelia: Book / Libro: "El Espíritu De Tu Negocio" - Amazon.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anadelia_oficial/ Email: anadeliarodriguez@gmail.com

Connect with Xóchitl / Conecta con Xóchitl: Website: xochitlashe.com | Instagram & Facebook: @xochitlashe

About AnaDelia / Sobre AnaDelia: Licensed Public Accountant, Business Coach & International Speaker / Licenciada en Contaduría Pública, Business Coach y Conferencista Internacional. Founder of Ana Delia Financial Services Inc., Covina, CA. 20+ years serving entrepreneurs across Mexico & USA / Fundadora de Ana Delia Financial Services Inc., más de 20 años sirviendo a emprendedores en México y EE.UU. She teaches conscious business practices that honor both profit and people / Enseña prácticas empresariales conscientes que honran tanto las ganancias como a las personas.

Key Chapters / Capítulos Clave:

(00:00) Welcome & Sacred Intention / Bienvenida e Intención Sagrada

(06:00) Birth of the Book / Nacimiento del Libro

(11:44) Limiting Beliefs / Creencias Limitantes 16:05 Numbers as Spiritual Clarity / Números como Claridad Espiritual

(22:07) Transformation Story: Immigrant Metalworkers / Historia: Herreros Inmigrantes

(28:45) The Five Foundations / Los Cinco Fundamentos

(39:00) Win-Win Negotiations / Negociaciones Ganar-Ganar

(43:32 )Power of Voice / Poder de la Voz

(45:01) Final Message / Mensaje Final

In this transformative conversation, host Xóchitl Kusikuy Ashé sits down with Jesse Johnson Chandra, a seven-figure spiritual business coach who specializes in helping healers, artists, and conscious entrepreneurs break free from poverty consciousness and build thriving practices.

This episode dismantles the pervasive myth that spiritual people must choose between service and wealth. Jesse shares her powerful journey from underpaid algebra teacher in NYC public schools to building a multi-million dollar coaching business—and then losing it all before rebuilding from a place of deeper authenticity and alignment.

Perfect for: Spiritual entrepreneurs, healers, coaches, artists, and conscious business owners struggling to charge their worth, experiencing money blocks, or feeling guilty about desiring financial abundance while doing sacred work.

Connect with Jesse Johnson Chandra

Website: www.jessejohnsoncoaching.com
Instagram: @jessejohnsoncoaching
YouTube: Jesse Johnson Coaching

Learn about: Seven-figure business strategy, money mindset coaching, sales training for spiritual entrepreneurs, conscious business development

Connect with Xóchitl Kusikuy Ashé

Website: xochitlashe.com
Instagram & Facebook: @xochitlashe
Specialty: Indigenous wisdom, microdosing integration, psychedelic facilitation, ancestral healing

About Jesse Johnson Chandra

Jesse Johnson Chandra is a transformational business coach, artist, and musician who serves visionary entrepreneurs, spiritual teachers, healers, and leaders of innovative organizations making profound impact in the world. She specializes in the intersection of money, power, consciousness, and potential, helping her clients do the work they are divinely called to, earn income that truly matches their value (typically seven figures or more), and live lives aligned with their deepest truth.

Jesse began as an algebra teacher and instructional coach in New York City public high schools, where she spent a decade attempting to transform education from within. Dismayed by systemic dysfunction and feeling deeply unsatisfied despite her commitment to service, she made the bold decision to leave the security of public education.

Following direct spiritual guidance, Jesse built a multi-million-dollar coaching business serving healers, spiritual teachers, yoga instructors, and conscious entrepreneurs, many of whom were struggling with the "spiritual poverty" paradigm that kept them financially restricted despite their powerful gifts.Jesse's revolutionary framework treats money as spiritual technology and sales as spiritual practice. This approach has helped hundreds of entrepreneurs build and scale multi-six and seven-figure businesses without compromising their integrity, values, or spiritual commitments. Her clients learn to see money not as a necessary evil, but as a tool for liberation, empowerment, and expanded service.

Chapters

(00:00) Introduction: Money, Power, and Consciousness

(02:17) Jesse's Origin Story: From Algebra Teacher to Spiritual Business Coach

(05:57) The Moment Everything Changed: Leaving Education

(10:15) Meeting Her First Life Coach and Discovering Business

(13:31) When God Picked Money: The Divine Redirect

(15:33) The Blind Spot: Why Spiritual People Struggle with Money

(18:45) The False Choice Between Service and Wealth

(22:52) Xóchitl's Story: Breaking Generational Medicine Woman Poverty Patterns

(27:56) Coming Out as a Medicine Woman in the Business World

(30:04) The Power of Working by Donation: A Healthcare Story

(32:53) The Crisis: Losing Faith After Becoming a Mother

(34:05) From Multi-Million Dollar Business to Near Bankruptcy

(37:09) The Desert Period: Questioning Everything

(43:10) Heartbreak as Medicine: The Illusions We Construct

(45:06) Why Money is Spiritual Technology

(47:22) Money as Practice of Presence: The Having

(50:35) Legacy Question: One Last Message About Money

(54:12) Closing: Money in the Hands of Healers Changes the World

Host Xóchitl Kusikuy Ashé speaks with Amber Hickman, a psychedelic integrator, and our retreat alumna, who lost her home in the 2023 Maui fires while living in Mexico. Amber shares her journey from displacement to rebuilding, and how microdosing has become essential for navigating collective trauma and grief.

This conversation explores witnessing and holding space for grief without trying to fix it. Amber introduces the "crater" metaphor, when big trauma happens, everything falls into a crater, and sometimes people just need someone to look at it with them. This insight shapes her microdosing integration circles in Mexico City.

Amber discusses transitioning from losing everything to creating a thriving practice. She shares how returning to Maui led to an unexpected soul retrieval experience, allowing her to move forward whole. They explore the distinction between wisdom keepers and gatekeepers, and bridging indigenous knowledge with modern needs. Her integration circles have become sacred community spaces where people disconnected from ancestry and spirituality can find belonging.

Essential listening for anyone navigating loss, supporting others through crisis, or seeking gentle healing tools. Practical wisdom on presence, witnessing without fixing, and why "agility" matters more than resilience in changing times.

Connect with Amber Hickman Instagram: @mindful.rabbit | Psilocybin Assisted Integration, Microdosing Integration Circles Website: https://www.mindfulrabbit.space/https://www.mindfulrabbit.space/

Connect with Xóchitl Website: xochitlashe.com | Instagram & Facebook: @xochitlashe

About Amber HickmanAmber is a psychedelic integrator specializing in activating visionary creativity and helping individuals design the life they want. She lost everything in the 2023 Lahaina fires while traveling in Mexico, deepening her understanding of trauma and community support. Now based in Mexico City, she facilitates microdosing integration circles as sacred community spaces. With a background in energy healing and life coaching, she bridges visionary states with real-world transformation, honoring indigenous wisdom while making practices accessible to modern seekers.

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Healing and Microdosing

04:05 Personal Experiences with Natural Disasters

07:08 The Impact of Community and Grief

10:00 Returning to Maui: A Healing Journey

13:04 Navigating Trauma and Resilience

16:19 Agility in Times of Change

19:00 Microdosing: A Tool for Healing

22:16 Cultural Connections and Spirituality

25:06 Building Community Through Microdosing

28:14 The Role of Presence in Healing

31:09 Final Thoughts and Wisdom

49:37 Closing