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Out of the Box

Out of the Box

Von: Margherita Carrozzo and Abby Justinger
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Out of the Box is a podcast born from a simple belief: logistics deserves more visibility. Too often, people stumble into this industry by chance – only to discover its depth, complexity, and impact on our daily lives. We bring clarity and transparency to logistics by sharing insightful, accessible conversations with voices from across the industry – technology innovators, consultants, distributors, and passionate advocates alike. Our goal is to create high-quality, conversational content that makes logistics more understandable, more visible, and more exciting for everyone.Margherita Carrozzo and Abby Justinger Management & Leadership Ökonomie
  • OOTB #34 | The Business of Transparency in Freight with Fabio Brocca from Xeneta
    Dec 4 2025

    Freight is one of the world’s most complex and volatile industries — and transparency has become the missing piece everyone is finally talking about.

    In this episode of Out of the Box, we sit down with Fabio Brocca from Xeneta to explore how global freight really works behind the scenes, why pricing can feel so opaque, and how data is transforming the way shippers and carriers make decisions.

    We break down:
    • Why freight rates fluctuate so dramatically — and why volatility is here to stay
    • How shippers benchmark contracts when every rate sheet looks different
    • The rise of freight market intelligence and what “transparency” actually means
    • How AI and automation are reshaping procurement, forecasting, and decision-making
    • What more visibility could unlock for the future of global logistics

    Fabio brings a unique perspective shaped by years inside MSC, Amazon, and now leading product at Xeneta — giving us an insider look at both the challenges and the massive opportunities unfolding in ocean and air freight today.

    If you’re curious about the future of global logistics, data-driven supply chains, or how technology is rewriting the rules of freight, this episode is packed with insights.

    Tune in and explore the new era of transparency in freight.

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    39 Min.
  • OOTB #33 | Nexus and Chill: Let’s Talk Sales Tax with Jacob Urbach from Numeral
    Nov 27 2025

    Whether you're an e-commerce founder, a global brand expanding into the U.S., or a European business trying to make sense of American tax rules (yes, the U.S. really is like 50 different countries when it comes to compliance), this conversation breaks it all down in a way that's clear, practical, and even… enjoyable?

    In this episode, we sit down with Jacob Urbach, Enterprise Account Executive at Numeral, to explore the depths of Sales Tax. His outstanding career has already touched SaaS businesses like Data.ai and Poolday.ai. where he has been able to see the importance of automation and AI in action- from saving revenue to easing founder anxiety.

    We discuss: • How sales tax/Nexus have changed over the years. •Why are these items so important but often neglected? •Why does automating these important tasks matter today and in the years to come? •What does the future of sale tax/Nexus look like?

    Plus, Jacob breaks down how and why classification matters. Is edible underwear clothing? Or is it considered a CPG/food product? Their is sales implications for both but differ!

    If you care about tackling one of the major headaches of supply chain – this episode is for you.

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    31 Min.
  • OOTB #32 | When Deep Tech Meets Logistics: A new Approach to Robot Perception with Ole Marius Hoel Rindal and Mathias Madsen
    Nov 20 2025

    What do dolphins, bats, and warehouse robots have in common?
    More than you might expect — and their connection says a lot about how quickly technology in logistics is evolving.

    In this episode of Out of the Box, we explore how deep-tech research is making its way from the lab into real industrial environments. Our conversation with the team from Sonair highlights a broader trend across automation: technologies rooted in ultrasound are now reshaping how robots perceive the world.

    We discuss:
    • The journey from academic ultrasound research to real-world sensing for AMRs
    • Why robot perception in warehouses is still far from “solved”
    • How functional safety standards influence what’s possible in automation
    • The growing importance of multimodal sensing for human–robot interaction
    • What breakthroughs like 3D ultrasonic perception mean for the future of logistics

    This episode offers a look at the accelerating pace of innovation in robotics — and how ideas once confined to specialized research environments are becoming practical tools for safer, more capable automation.

    Tune in to explore how far sensing technology has come, and where it may be heading next.

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    28 Min.
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