Ila, an occupational therapist and co-founder of Zeno Mountain Farm, shares what it takes to build a community in Vermont where people with and without disabilities live, work, and create together. She also dives into the films Zeno makes—not just about disability, but about real stories and people—showing why representation in culture matters. This episode is about the messy, joyful work of inclusion and the friendships that make it real.

I’m Léa Hirschfeld and this is Out of Sync : exploring life through disability, one story at a time.

New episodes drop every Tuesday on all platforms with transcripts on Youtube.

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Have you ever had breakfast across from someone wearing a princess costume, spent the afternoon sliding through the woods on a 200-foot slide into a pond, turned dishwashing into a party, or stripped off your clothes to lie in a storm? Welcome to Zeno Mountain Farm, where we put as much energy into having fun as most people put into work. Where having fun is the work. Where everything we do implies seriously thinking through how everyone, with and without disabilities, can participate in the meaningful things of life: eating with friends, jamming on instruments, shaving outside, attending open-air concerts, making plays and movies, and even windsurfing in a wheelchair. What Will Halby and his family started as a small film camp in California has become a year-round community in Vermont, where all bodies and minds are represented on stage and on screen, participating in life to the fullest of their abilities. It is free, secular, and grounded in friendship and common sense: we all have needs that must be met—so let’s take it to another level.

I’m Léa Hirschfeld, and this is Out of Sync: exploring life through disability, one story at a time.

New episodes drop every Tuesday on all platforms.

🇫🇷 for French stories: @decales_podcast

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This is Krista. Becoming a mother of twins at 35 changed everything, and even more so when one of them suffered a brain injury at birth. She learned to balance grief with problem-solving, to lean on her husband while advocating together, and to trust schools and professionals while finding her own ways to support her children. A neighbor of Zeno Mountain Farm, she discovered a community that expanded her sense of what’s possible. Now, with the twins heading off to college, she reflects on raising children with and without disabilities—and what it has taught her about letting go.

I’m Léa Hirschfeld and this is Out of Sync : exploring life through disability, one story at a time.

Listen to Krista's daughters, Isabelle and Hannah, in episodes 1 &2.

New episodes drop every Tuesday on all platforms – for transcripts, check out our YouTube channel.
🇫🇷 for French stories: @decales_podcast

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.