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Our Long Walk

Our Long Walk

Von: Johan Fourie and Jonathan Schoots
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A podcast series about South Africa’s past, present, and future. Economic historian Johan Fourie and historical sociologist Jonathan Schoots interview social science scholars investigating fascinating questions about our country and continent and distil those lessons into practical policy suggestions today.Johan Fourie and Jonathan Schoots Welt
  • Are we suffering from a crisis of imagination? with sociologist Xolela Mancgu
    Feb 4 2026

    What are we missing when we divide history into the binary of ‘tradition’ and ‘modernity’? How is biography different when we imagine a person’s story from within the structures they find themselves in? What is the crisis of imagination facing South African leadership?

    In this episode, Johan Fourie and Jonathan Schoots speak with sociologist and historian Xolela Mangcu, Interim Director of Africana Studies at George Washington University. Xolela is the author of a major biography of Steve Biko and is currently writing a new biography of Nelson Mandela, due in late 2026.

    Some of Xolela’s mentioned work:

    About President Ramaphosa

    Transition magazine

    "Biko, a Life"

    This podcast is produced with the help of Voice Note Productions. Our producer is Vasti Calitz with editing done by Andri Burnett. Kelsey Lemon provided helpful research assistance.

    For more information about the episode and to subscribe to Johan’s newsletter, visit ourlongwalk.com.


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    49 Min.
  • Who is more capitalist than Elon? with strategy expert Christopher Eaglin
    Dec 10 2025

    Why do our strategy theories fail when confronted with the realities of one of Africa’s most essential informal businesses – minibus taxis? Can a drop in interest rates reduce speeding and crashes? How is the government free-riding on the work (and risk) of taxi entrepreneurs?

    In this episode of the Our Long Walk podcast, Johan Fourie and Jonathan Schoots speak with Christopher Eaglin, assistant professor in the strategy area at Duke University’s Fuqua School of Business. Before academia he worked with non-profits, large firms and, crucially, South Africa’s least understood industry: minibus taxis.

    Some of Chris’s mentioned work:

    The Need for Speed: The Impact of Capital Constraints on Strategic Misconduct

    This podcast is produced with the help of Voice Note Productions. Our producer is Vasti Calitz with editing done by Andri Burnett. Kelsey Lemon provided helpful research assistance.

    For more information about the episode and to subscribe to Johan’s newsletter, visit ourlongwalk.com.


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    49 Min.
  • What do Africa’s old currencies say about our modern world? with historian Karin Pallaver
    Nov 19 2025

    What advantages did cowrie shells and beads have over coins in Africa? Is mobile money a revolution, or just the latest chapter in Africa's long history of monetary innovation?

    In this episode, Johan Fourie and Jonathan Schoots speak to historian Karin Pallaver about the long history of money in Africa. Karin works at the intersection of economic history, anthropology and archaeology, tracing how shells, beads, metal and paper – and now pixels – have carried value and power across the continent.

    Karin Pallaver is Associate Professor of African History at the University of Bologna. She previously worked as a researcher in the Coins and Medals Department at the British Museum in London.

    This podcast is produced with the help of Voice Note Productions. Our producer is Vasti Calitz with editing done by Andri Burnett. Kelsey Lemon provided helpful research assistance. For more information about the episode and to subscribe to Johan’s newsletter, visit ourlongwalk.com.

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    50 Min.
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