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This week delivers the second part of an interview with ethics expert Katherine Brown-Saltzman, MA, RN, president of Ethics of Caring, the organization behind the National Nursing Ethics Conference (NNEC).

Ethical concerns can grow into pressing issues, said Brown-Saltzman, when nurses don’t confront the concern early on, comparing these situations to the rapid spread of a forest fire.

“By the time you are outraged, you’re in moral distress,” said Brown-Saltzman. “To bring these issues up early really helps because then you aren’t completely locked down into conflict.”

In these cases, she said that the best thing a nurse can do to intervene early on is to simply ask a question.

“The wisest thing that I learned along the way was instead of pointing the finger…to put a question on the table,” said Brown-Saltzman. “’I’m beginning to have these ethical concerns and wondering, are we approaching this family in the best way?...I’m wondering how we can better approach them with questions about stopping treatment.’”