Today’s conversation is a powerful reminder that what we often call cutting-edge technology is, in many ways, a return to deeply rooted truth.

I’m honored to welcome Scott Hickle, CEO and co-founder of Throne Science, a revolutionary health-tech company reimagining how we understand digestive health. Alongside John Capodilupo, one of the original founders of WHOOP—Scott brings together deep experience in biometric data, human performance, and preventive health.

At first glance, Throne’s innovation—a smart toilet that analyzes stool and urine to generate personalized health insights—may sound futuristic. But when we look through the lens of Ayurveda, this technology feels incredibly familiar.

In Ayurvedic medicine, stool analysis has always been one of the most important diagnostic tools. Long before lab tests and imaging, practitioners observed the color, consistency, frequency, smell, and ease of elimination to understand digestion, metabolism, nervous system balance, and even emotional health. Ayurveda teaches that when digestion is strong and elimination is clear, vitality—ojas—naturally follows.

What Throne Science is doing is translating this ancient, embodied practice into a modern, accessible, and data-driven format—one that empowers individuals to self-observe, self-educate, and reconnect with their bodies in real time.

This is especially important in the context of preventive care. Colorectal cancer is now one of the leading causes of cancer-related deaths, and rates are rising even among younger populations. Digestive dysfunction often whispers long before it screams—but in modern life, we’re rarely taught how to listen. Throne offers a way to notice subtle changes early, without fear, shame, or disruption to daily life.

From an Ayurvedic perspective, this is deeply aligned with the principle of svastha—being rooted in the self. Health is not something handed to us by a practitioner or a system; it’s something we cultivate through awareness. Throne Science puts the keys back in our hands, transforming one of the most overlooked daily rituals into an act of self-inquiry and empowerment.

We are living in a really exciting moment—where modern health technology is opening the gateway back to a wisdom system that is over 10,000 years old. Today’s conversation is about championing that bridge: how ancient knowledge and advanced technology can work together to help us understand our bodies more deeply, prevent disease more intelligently, and reclaim a sense of agency in our health journeys.

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 Today's guest is someone who followed a deep soul level pole toward one sacred plant cacao. We're honored to be joined by Jonas Wonka, founder of Ora Cacao, whose journey with cacao began not as a business idea, but as a relationship. In this conversation, Jonas shares how cacao found him, what it means to work with this plant as a teacher rather than a commodity, and how ceremonial cacao can support emotional healing, presence, and heart connection in our modern, overstimulated world.

We explore cacao through both spiritual and Ayurvedic lenses, including cacao versus coffee, doshic considerations, and how to work with cacao in a way that builds Ojas, rather than depletes it. This episode is an invitation to return to ritual and tension and relationship with plants, with ourselves and with the heart.

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Sasha and Erin talk about the pursuit of mastery in our relationships with Self and Others, and how it may possibly be the tallest order of all. After all, it is one thing to read, study, and teach Ayurveda, and another thing to practice it—especially in trying circumstances. Sasha’s Sankalpa for this episode is to keep a humble seat next to you as she shares her knowledge and experience (both highs and lows) on the journey.

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