A first for Nobody Cares What You Think: a listener hill, sent in by voice note, people who build pubs in their back gardens are weird. Jamie and Richard take it apart, defend it, and decide whether a shed with optics is a midlife crisis in timber form. Keep the voice notes coming. The worse the hill, the better.

Richard has discovered Marquee TV and gone deep on Shakespeare, specifically Richard II and Richard III and everything around them. A man called Richard, watching plays called Richard, explaining them to Jamie. Jamie took the Shakespeare lesson in good spirit. Mostly.

Also this week: The Celebrity Traitors is back and Richard E Grant was picked as a Traitor and then just told everyone, which must have been a real headache for the producers. Jamie took Bella to the Derby Computer Museum and found the PlayStation 1 behind glass, which means he is now officially a museum exhibit. He’s started the new season of Slow Horses, is reading Robert Harris’s Imperium and failed to get Oasis tickets. And Jamie experienced the Watford Gap drink. That’s all we’ll say.

Plus: new photos, a new thumbnail on the way, and a video special coming to Instagram. They have faces for podcasts. They’re doing it anyway.

Jamie arrived. Richard carried him. That's the episode.

In fairness, Jamie rallied. They tried Richard's green tea — Jamie was not a fan. They talked about the Invention festival in Derby, Richard's ongoing library decoration project, his discovery of a waygo, and his decision to do his own electrics which absolutely nobody asked him to do. Jamie recounts his Odysseus-style journey from the Netherlands back home. Richard shares his newfound joy of terrible rosé wine.

Richard's hill: people with oversized cars should not be parking in standard supermarket spaces. Jamie feels personally victimised and does not agree. The hill stands.

Also this week: Jamie describes his funeral dress code in some detail — there will be a door person. Richard has been reading The Chrysalids. Jamie loved the Grand Tour. They have a strange conversation about whether people can think in images. Richard bought Jamie a Tayto crisps tote bag and a Skyrim pillowcase as gifts, which says everything you need to know about Richard.

Finally: Jamie and Richard announce new shorts and discuss a potential video episode special. They have faces for podcasts. They know this.

Jamie and Richard are back after the summer and they have things to say.

Richard travelled the length and breadth of the UK for various reasons and has the motorway service station opinions to prove it. Jamie went to AEW All In and lived his best life. Then Jamie watched the new Oasis film and has a review, how did it land, does it do justice to the mythology, and what does it say about our relationship with nostalgia and bands we grew up with?

Jamie's hill this week: the utterly abysmal process of buying anything from Currys. The experience is broken from start to finish and there is no excuse for it. Richard pushes back big time. Jamie is not moved.

Then they turn to gaming. Where is it right now, where is it going, and what does the subscription model actually mean for the future of how we play and what gets made? A proper conversation about something both of them care about.

Good to have them back.

Richard went to Download with his mate. He enjoyed it so much he invited said mate to contribute via voice note — a special guest addition that Jamie was not consulted on and is not happy about. There is a new podcast friend. Jamie is hurt. The friendship is being evaluated.

On the music: Limp Bizkit were genuinely great. Guns N Roses were comically bad. Linkin Park were frustratingly bad. Richard has thoughts on all of it and his mate has thoughts via voice note whether Jamie likes it or not.

Richard's hill: camping chairs should be allowed at festivals. Jamie mocks him instantly. Richard doesn't care — he turns it into a broader and entirely justified rant about Live Nation, their festival rules, and the case for better disabled access at live events. The chair is fine. The system is the problem.

Jamie went to a wedding in France in 40 degree heat, made a mad dash to pick his child up after landing back in the UK, and has been watching Clarkson's Farm — which comes with the complication of having complicated feelings about Jeremy Clarkson. Ride or Die on Amazon also gets a mention.

Then there's a bolt on — Richard talks about Bloodstock, a total contrast to Download in every conceivable way. Richard also advertises Invention, a new Derby festival worth knowing about. The advert goes so well that Jamie and Richard formally invite VPN companies and mattress brands to get in touch. They will not be getting in touch.

Jamie went to Matlock Bath and tried to buy an ice cream. They said cash only. Jamie was not having it. This week's hill to die on: there is no excuse for a business not taking card in 2025. None. The technology exists, it is affordable, and choosing to be cash only is either laziness, bloody-mindedness, or something else entirely. Richard has a counter argument. Jamie is not interested.

Also this week: the new Prime Minister visited Derby. Jamie's partner was there. Jamie seized the moment and asked her to invite him on the podcast. She did not pass the message on. The dream lives on regardless.

The World Cup is coming. FIFA continues to be FIFA. Odyssey — the film — gets a brief review. MCR at Wembley happened and it was incredible, anniversary tour hill or not.

Jamie also tells Richard off for saying less when he means fewer. Richard is not sorry.

And then there is the Nerds Den. One big, definitive Temu camping report. Richard went into the wilderness with £60 of questionable gear and came back with stories, field recordings, and an Aztec death whistle. Yes, really.

Two Months Late and Still Right: We Review The Mandalorian and Grogu

Nobody Cares What You Think arrives fashionably late to the cultural zeitgeist this week as Jamie and Richard finally review The Mandalorian and Grogu — two months after release, completely unashamed, and with plenty to say. They loved it. They have thoughts. Grogu's character development remains as stunted as his growth and Star Wars needs to be brave enough to do something about it.

Richard's hill this week: trailers on streaming platforms can get in the bin. If he wanted to see a trailer he would look for one. He did not ask for one to autoplay the moment he hovered over a synopsis on Netflix. This then becomes a broader and entirely justified rant about adverts on streaming services, the slow and infuriating creep of the things that made cable television unbearable finding their way onto platforms people pay specifically to avoid them.

Also this week: what they've been up to, where Star Wars goes from here, books they have actually read, Five Go Nowhere, and how much land does a man need.

A good one. Worth the wait.

For the first time in Nobody Cares What You Think history, there is a guest. His name is Kirk. He runs Trendng, an independent culture and music platform covering Derby and beyond, and unlike most people Jamie and Richard talk about, they genuinely wanted to hear what he had to say.

The conversation covers how Trendng started, what it actually takes to run independent cultural coverage, and why the stories coming out of smaller cities and smaller venues matter more than anyone with a national platform seems to notice. What's old is new again — grassroots culture is having a moment and Kirk is one of the people paying attention to it.

Kirk's hill to die on: it is perfectly fine to film at a gig on your phone. Just don't spend the whole night looking through it. Jamie and Richard have thoughts.

Richard also unveils his latest Nerds Den purchase — a purpose built case specifically designed to organise batteries. Jamie is not having it. A zip lock bag does the same job. Richard disagrees. This is who these people are.

A brilliant first guest episode. More where this came from.

Jamie and Richard have strong opinions about tea. Neither will back down. This is where we are. Get the popcorn.

Also this week: Richard has been systematically watching Cheers from the beginning and has arrived at a deeply unsettling conclusion — your parents were right, it has all been done before, and Friends basically nicked the lot. He went to see an experimental artist and has thoughts. He also tells a story about the film London Road that Jamie still doesn't fully understand by the end, and frankly neither will you.

Jamie bought tickets to the My Chemical Romance Black Parade anniversary tour at Wembley. Regular listeners will remember Richard's hill in Episode 6. Jamie would like it noted that he is aware of the irony.

Main topic: are we just getting old, or was the old stuff genuinely better? Does anything feel properly unmissable anymore the way things used to? The World Cup is coming, MCR are doing anniversary tours, and Richard is watching a sitcom from 1982. Make of that what you will.

The tea debate is resolved. Sort of. Not really.