Frankie is not just an advocate — she is a force. Long before prison entered her life, she was already fighting for the rights of children and people with disabilities, driven by compassion and a deep sense of justice. The daughter of a police officer who lost his life saving others on 9/11, service and humanity were woven into who she is.

But everything changed when the man she loved was incarcerated and subjected to severe mistreatment and medical neglect. Instead of breaking, Frankie turned her knowledge, voice, and relentless determination toward fighting the system to protect him. Even after personal betrayal, she continues to advocate for the injustice he endured — a true reflection of her character, integrity, and heart.

Through humor, truth, and fearless transparency, Frankie uses her platform to educate, expose, and inspire. Her videos are as powerful as they are hilarious, and her mission is rooted in one simple belief: humanity must come first.

I’m incredibly grateful to sit down with Frankie today. Her story will move you, challenge you, and remind you what real strength looks like.

Make sure you follow Frankie — you don’t want to miss her voice, her fight, or her impact.

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Butterfly never expected her life to change the day she walked into the prison as a therapist. Adam was known across the yard — a troublemaker, a leader, and the go-to guy. What began as professional contact slowly turned into something neither of them planned… or could stop.

In this episode, Butterfly shares how their relationship progressed and was inevitable- they were meant to be. She opens up about the emotional toll, the highs and lows of working inside, and why her success helping incarcerated men was seen as a threat rather than an achievement.

Despite the controversy, the accusations, and Adam now facing serious new charges that could keep him imprisoned for years, Butterfly has made one promise — she isn’t leaving his side. She speaks candidly about navigating love inside the system, fighting to keep her professional license, the lessons from her past that shaped her work, and why — in her experience — some of the most trustworthy people she met were the men behind the bars, not the staff.

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Marie’s story starts on a pen pal website — unexpected, intense, and complicated from the beginning. She met a man 20 years younger than her at a time when she barely recognized herself. Overweight, exhausted from a previous relationship, and feeling like a “plain Jane,” Marie had lost the drive to take care of herself or feel desirable.

What followed was a two-year emotional rollercoaster filled with insecurity, jealousy, and unanswered questions. Was he talking to other women? Was her size holding her back? Was the age gap a fantasy or a ticking time bomb? Marie opens up about how deeply those doubts affected her — and how wanting to be “enough” for him pushed her to finally change.

She lost the weight. She found her confidence again.

And then… the power shifted.

Now, Marie finds herself on the other side — being chased, desired, and fully aware of it. What once felt like insecurity has turned into control, and what began as vulnerability has evolved into a constant back-and-forth power struggle between two people who can’t seem to let go.

This episode doesn’t offer easy answers or a fairytale ending — just a raw, honest look at desire, transformation, and what happens when the balance of power in a relationship flips. Where they’ll end up next? Even Marie doesn’t know — but this is their story so far.

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