The COVID pandemic is and was a health crisis. So why talk to a historian, and when does a medical emergency become a historical event? How can we all become historians, and what does Gardening Australia have to do with any of this? Nick Eckstein talks to Peter Hobbins to find out.

Host: Nick Eckstein

Guest: Peter Hobbins

Series Producer: Peter Adams

In the final episode of Making Sense of Anzac, Nick Eckstein and Brad Manera discuss the impulse which, almost since the battle ended, has driven so many Australians to revisit the scene of the military disaster at Anzac Cove. What knowledge do older and younger Australians carry with them on this pilgrimage? What is the power of individual stories, and how does the experience of literally 'being there' change those who make the journey?

The Ode of Remembrance reading is voiced by Dr Vanessa Witton.

Host: Nick Eckstein

Guest: Brad Manera

Series Producer: Peter Adams

Photo: "Anzac Day wreaths" by State Library of South Australia is licensed under CC BY 2.0.

Last Post recording is an Australian Air League recording https://www.airleague.com.au/download/last-post/

Many, perhaps most, 21st-century Australians believe that a phenomenon known as 'the Australian character' was forged amid the carnage and chaos of Gallipoli in 1915 and 1916. How accurate is this myth? What is the actual relationship between Gallipoli and the ideals of Australian manhood celebrated to this day in film, sport and popular memory? In episode 2 of Making Sense of Anzac, Nick Eckstein and Brad Manera talk about how the historical significance of the Anzac legend has changed in over a century. And they introduce a group who should have been part of the story since the beginning: women.

Host: Nick Eckstein

Guest: Brad Manera

Series Producer: Peter Adams

Photo - Hasitha Tudugalle (flickr). Used under Creative Commons License 2.0