In this episode, Dr. Travis Montgomery interviews Dr. Thomas Kidd—research professor of church history at Midwestern Seminary and leading historian of early America—on the perennial question: Was America founded as a Christian nation? Drawing on decades of scholarship, Dr. Kidd explains how Christian ideas shaped the founding, why the legal structure of the United States avoids a national church, and how evangelicals (especially Baptists) influenced key developments such as religious liberty. The conversation explores the First Great Awakening, the mixed personal beliefs of the founders, the relevance of church history to pastoral ministry, and how Christians today should think about political theology in light of America’s past. Students from around the world can study with Dr. Kidd through Midwestern Seminary’s Global Campus: mbts.edu/global.

About the Podcast

Local Theologians is a show for everyday Christians preparing for ministry and leadership through Midwestern Seminary’s Global Campus. Learn more at mbts.edu/global.

Keywords

American founding, Christian nation, religious liberty, First Great Awakening, Thomas Jefferson, deism, church history, Baptist political theology, America and Christianity

Takeaways

• Christian ideas deeply influenced the American founding, especially views of human nature, political power, and equality.

• The Constitution intentionally avoided establishing a national church, emphasizing free exercise of religion instead.

• Many evangelicals—especially Baptists—celebrated disestablishment because they had been persecuted under state churches.

• Not all founding fathers were Christians; several, including Jefferson and Franklin, rejected core doctrines like the Trinity and the deity of Christ.

• Studying church history helps pastors answer real questions their congregations ask about America’s identity.

• Advocating Christian morality is appropriate, but Christians should not desire a state church.

• Religious liberty helped fuel the Second Great Awakening and the greatest era of church growth in American history.

Sound Bites

• “Christian ideas are everywhere in the founding—but that doesn’t make the nation a Christian nation legally.”

• “Baptists didn’t want state support. They wanted to be left alone to preach the gospel.”

• “Calling Jefferson a Christian requires redefining Christianity—and we must not do that.”

• “Religious freedom works. It helped spark the greatest revival era in American history.”

In this Global Campus Forum, Dr. Travis Montgomery interviews Dr. Jason DeRouchie—Research Professor of Old Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Seminary—on why the Old Testament is Christian Scripture and how believers today can understand and enjoy it. Drawing from decades of scholarship and pastoral ministry, Dr. DeRouchie explains why many Christians struggle with the Old Testament, how he came to cherish it, and why Jesus, Paul, and the apostles treated it as foundational for Christian faith. The conversation explores biblical-theological method, the role of covenants, genealogies, how to see Christ faithfully in Old Testament texts, and practical steps for reading, teaching, and preaching Jesus’s Bible as Christians today.

About the Podcast

Local Theologians is a podcast for everyday Christians and ministry leaders from Midwestern Seminary’s Global Campus. Learn more at mbts.edu/global.

Keywords

Old Testament, biblical theology, New Testament use of the Old Testament, covenants, genealogies, Christ in the Old Testament, Christian Scripture, exegesis, preaching, Jason DeRouchie

Takeaways

• The Old Testament is Christian Scripture—Jesus, Paul, and all the apostles treated it as their Bible.

• The Old Testament authors wrote with the new-covenant church in mind.

• Many Christians struggle with the Old Testament because they have not seen it modeled as Christian Scripture or preached in depth.

• Reading the Old Testament with Jesus at the center removes the veil and opens spiritual understanding.

• The Old Testament tells one unified story of God’s redemptive plan culminating in Christ.

• Slow reading, attention to cross-references, and tracing biblical-theological patterns enrich understanding.

• Genealogies and laws reveal God’s character and point to the need for—and fulfillment in—Jesus.

• Faithful interpretation avoids forcing Christ into the text but instead follows patterns warranted in Scripture.

Sound Bites

• The Old Testament was Jesus’s Bible—and it’s ours too.”

• The prophets knew they were writing for a future, restored people—us.”

• Paul never read his Old Testament the same after meeting Jesus.

• If we keep Jesus at the center, the veil is removed.

• Every genealogy is going somewhere—either toward the Messiah or the mission field.

In this episode, Dr. Travis Montgomery talks with Dr. Taylor DiRoberto—Pastor of Preaching and Leadership at Northside Fellowship and Assistant Professor of Christian Studies at Spurgeon College—about how studying ecclesiology (the doctrine of the church) has shaped his life, convictions, and ministry. Taylor shares how a single week in a systematic theology class opened the door to a lifelong passion for understanding church authority, leadership, and congregational responsibility. They discuss the difference between pragmatism and prudence, the biblical basis for plurality of elders, congregational decision-making, and how doctrine forms real ministry practices in church planting, pastoral care, and discipleship.

About the Podcast

Local Theologians is a podcast for everyday Christians and ministry leaders from Midwestern Seminary's Global Campus. Learn more about online theological education at mbts.edu/global.

Keywords

ecclesiology, church leadership, plurality of elders, congregationalism, prudence, pragmatism, church planting, theology of the church, Baptist polity, pastoral ministry

Takeaways

• Ecclesiology is the doctrine of the church—what it is, how it's led, and how authority functions.

• Studying the church helps ordinary Christians grow in love, wonder, and commitment to Christ’s people.

• Scripture gives principled patterns for church governance, even if not every detail is prescribed.

• Plurality of elders is a normative New Testament pattern that protects pastors and strengthens churches.

• Prudence—not mere pragmatism—applies biblical principles to complex, real-life ministry situations.

• Congregations have God-given authority in matters of doctrine and membership.

• Studying ecclesiology helps pastors partner humbly with their people and avoid isolation in ministry.

Sound Bites

• “God has something to say about how His church is structured and led.”

• “Plurality wasn’t a strategy—it was a conviction from Scripture.”

• “The curriculum gives you boxes the algorithm never will.”

• “Prudence applies doctrine; pragmatism ignores it.”

In this Serve Story episode, Dr. Travis Montgomery talks with Dr. Jeff Medders—Director of Theology and Content for Send Network (NAMB), Visiting Professor of Christian Studies at Midwestern Seminary, and General Editor and Fellow of the Spurgeon Center. Together they discuss why church planters need robust theology, how Send Network prepares and assesses planters, and the importance of faithful, effective ministry. Jeff shares insights from his church planting experience, his work building theological resources, and the new masterclass and courses designed to equip planters for long-term, healthy ministry. Learn more about Send Network resources at www.newchurches.com.

About the Podcast

Local Theologians is a podcast for everyday Christians and ministry leaders from Midwestern Seminary's Global Campus. Learn more about online theological education at mbts.edu/global.

Keywords

church planting, Send Network, NAMB, theology, ecclesiology, assessment, pastoral ministry, missiology, ministry training, discipleship

Takeaways

• Church planters need both faithfulness to Scripture and effectiveness in leadership.

• Send Network provides training, assessments, and resources to prepare planters for the challenges of ministry.

• Theological depth protects planters from error and equips them to shepherd their people well.

• The assessment process helps ensure that planters are called, qualified, and ready for the rigor of planting.

• Spiritual formation, not just strategy, is essential for long-term health in ministry.

• Robust theological resources—including seminary, masterclasses, books, and podcasts—help multiply healthy churches.

• Good theology helps planters triage issues, avoid unnecessary division, and focus on gospel essentials.

Sound Bites

• We want planters who are faithful and effective—because one without the other won’t last.

• Church planters are local theologians; they must tell the truth about God.

• Fog machines won’t help you if you don’t know your doctrine.

• Anybody can gather a crowd, but only the gospel raises people from the dead.

• Good theology helps us care about what matters—and stop caring about what doesn’t.

In this episode, Dr. Travis Montgomery talks with Dr. Rustin Umstattd, Professor of Theology and Ministry at Midwestern Seminary and pastor at Northland Church in Kansas City, about the importance of understanding the Bible as a unified story. Rustin explains how seeing Scripture as an unfolding narrative—from Genesis to Revelation—transformed both his theological study and pastoral ministry. Together they discuss why biblical theology matters, how genre fits into the Bible’s story, and why reading the whole Bible is essential for understanding Jesus, the gospel, and the Christian life.

About the Podcast

Local Theologians is a podcast for everyday Christians and ministry leaders from Midwestern Seminary's Global Campus. Learn more about online theological education at mbts.edu/global.

Keywords

biblical theology, story of Scripture, Old Testament, New Testament, preaching, discipleship, seminary training, Scripture reading, church ministry

Takeaways

• The Bible tells one unified story that centers on Jesus Christ.

• Understanding the story of Scripture helps clarify difficult passages like Hebrews and Melchizedek.

• Systematic theology is strengthened when grounded in biblical theology.

• Reading the whole Bible is essential for making sense of individual books and doctrines.

• Different biblical genres contribute uniquely to the overall story of redemption.

• Teaching and preaching become richer when rooted in the unfolding narrative of Scripture.

• The Bible’s story provides a compelling and objective framework for Christian faith.

Sound Bites

• You don’t need a decoder ring—you need to know the story.

• You can’t make sense of Romans without Genesis through Malachi.

• Once you see how Jesus fulfills the story, you can’t unsee it.

• The Bible’s story proves more than it proposes.

Resources Mentioned

• T. Desmond Alexander, From Eden to the New Jerusalem

• Stephen Dempster, Dominion and Dynasty

• G. K. Beale, A New Testament Biblical Theology

• Bartholomew and Goheen, The Drama of Scripture

• James Hamilton, What is Biblical Theology?

• Geerhardus Vos, Biblical Theology

• Gentry and Wellum, Kingdom Through Covenant

Chapters

1. 00:00 Introduction and Rustin Umstattd’s Background

2. 01:30 Discovering the Bible as a Story

3. 03:12 Abraham, Galatians, and the Unity of Scripture

4. 04:29 Hebrews, Melchizedek, and Story Context

5. 05:30 How This Shaped Rustin’s Ministry

6. 08:12 Teaching Theology Through the Story of Scripture

7. 09:50 Preaching and Reading the Bible Biblically

8. 11:30 Story, Culture, and Worldview Formation

9. 12:57 Biblical Genres and the Place of Proverbs

10. 17:19 Stories, Songs, and Scripture’s Power

11. 21:25 Why Whole-Bible Reading Matters

12. 24:49 Recommended Resources on Biblical Theology

13. 28:21 Why the Story of Scripture Validates Faith

14. 30:33 Closing Reflections

In January 2026, students of Midwestern Seminary's Global Campus gathered for an intensive week of class, worship, and fellowship. In this episode, Dr. Travis Montgomery gathers the professors teaching Winter Week classes—Colton Strother, Ken Parker, Dale Johnson, Wes Pastor, and Todd Chipman—for a conversation on friendship in ministry. They share their experiences of calling, mentoring, seminary friendships, loneliness in modern life, relational vulnerability, and the challenges and blessings of maintaining friendship while serving the church. The panelists offer biblical wisdom, seasoned pastoral insight, and practical strategies for cultivating healthy, life-giving friendships in ministry and in the local church.

About the Podcast

Local Theologians is a podcast for everyday Christians and ministry leaders from Midwestern Seminary's Global Campus. Learn more about online theological education at mbts.edu/global.

Keywords

friendship, ministry, seminary, pastoral leadership, loneliness, community, vulnerability, spiritual formation, relationships, church life

Takeaways

• Friendship is essential for long-term faithfulness in ministry and grounded in the relational nature of God.

• Many ministers are first encouraged toward seminary by pastors, mentors, or professors who see gifting and potential.

• Seminary friendships can become lifelong ministry partnerships, especially when grounded in shared calling and service.

• Loneliness is both a cultural and spiritual issue—exacerbated by digital life and healed through embodied Christian community.

• Vulnerability, honesty, and intentionality are key ingredients of meaningful friendship.

• Ministers must pursue friendship both inside and outside their churches, while also cultivating friendship within their families.

• Friendships require proactive effort—through hobbies, shared routines, text threads, or simply making space for people.

• Betrayal is an inevitable risk in ministry, yet the call to love and serve without demanding reciprocity remains central.

Sound Bites

• Real friends are few—and they require vulnerability.

• God uses friendship to steady us in ministry’s ups and downs.

• Loneliness thrives where self-focus grows; love pulls us outward.

• Love is often a one-way street—and that’s okay.

• We flourish when we risk being known and loved.

Chapters

1. 00:00 Introductions and Panel Overview

2. 01:50 Panelists’ Ministry Roles and Backgrounds

3. 04:20 Who First Encouraged You Toward Seminary?

4. 09:31 Seminary Friendships and Lifelong Ministry Relationships

5. 14:10 Loneliness in Culture and the Church

6. 17:41 Biblical and Practical Approaches to Isolation

7. 23:04 Vulnerability, Honesty, and Being Known

8. 24:58 Faith, Hope, Love, and Relational Health

9. 26:52 How Busy Ministers Make and Maintain Friendships

Summary

In this episode, Dr. Travis Montgomery talks with Kris Raven, pastor of Lakeshore Baptist Church and MBTS doctoral student focusing on the New Testament use of the Old Testament. Kris shares how biblical authors intentionally draw from the Old Testament to shape Christian theology and practice, and how understanding these connections strengthens preaching, discipleship, and the health of local churches. Their discussion covers how Kris first encountered this field of study, how it has shaped his walk with Christ, and why it matters for every believer—especially in a world filled with unhelpful or confused approaches to the Old Testament, such as the Hebrew Roots Movement.

About the Podcast

Local Theologians is a podcast for everyday Christians and ministry leaders from Midwestern Seminary's Global Campus. Learn more about online theological education at mbts.edu/global.

Keywords

New Testament use of the Old Testament, biblical theology, hermeneutics, preaching, discipleship, healthy churches, Scripture interpretation, typology, intertextuality

Resources

G. K. Beale, Handbook on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament (Baker)

G. K. Beale and D. A. Carson, eds. Commentary on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament (Baker)

Nick Roark and Robert Cline, Biblical Theology: How the Church Faithfully Teaches the Gospel, 9Marks Building Healthy Churches Series (Crossway)

Blog: Jason DeRouchie, “How to Understand and Apply the Old Testament: Step 10 – Biblical Theology”

Takeaways

• The New Testament frequently quotes, alludes to, and echoes the Old Testament to reveal Christ and God's redemptive story.

• Understanding how biblical authors use earlier Scripture deepens our confidence in the unity of the Bible.

• Careful study prevents misinterpretation and guards churches against unhelpful teaching—including misuses of the Old Testament like the Hebrew Roots Movement.

• Biblical theology helps us see how the entire Bible fits together around Christ.

• Diligent interpretation enriches preaching and strengthens discipleship in the local church.

• Study tools such as Beale’s handbook and commentary can guide pastors and students in understanding intertextual connections.

Sound Bites

• There is intentionality in the way New Testament authors draw from the Old Testament.

• The New Testament is not a new story—it is the continuation and fulfillment of the Old.

• We don’t ignore the Old Testament; we read it through the lens of Christ.

• Diligence in study is an act of love for God and His Word.

Chapters

1. 00:00 Introduction and Kris Raven’s Background

2. 01:27 What Is the New Testament Use of the Old Testament?

3. 03:27 How Kris First Encountered This Field of Study

4. 04:57 Beale’s Handbook and the Academic Journey

5. 07:43 Why These Connections Matter for Bible Readers

6. 09:31 Examples from John and Hebrews

7. 11:20 How This Study Deepened Kris’s Walk With Christ

8. 12:48 Diligence in Study as Spiritual Formation

9. 14:47 A Real-World Ministry Challenge: Hebrew Roots Movement

10. 15:55 How Understanding NT/OT Use Protects Healthy Churches

11. 17:26 Reading the Old Testament Through the Lens of Christ

12. 21:16 Recommended Resources for Further Study

13. 25:44 Closing Reflections

In this episode, Dr. Travis Montgomery talks with Nancy Guthrie, author and Bible teacher, about how to wisely and compassionately speak into suffering. Nancy shares her personal story of loss, the lessons she learned about faith and grief, and practical advice for comforting others without causing harm. The conversation explores common mistakes Christians make, how biblical theology shapes our understanding of suffering, and why hope in God’s promises sustains us through pain. Nancy also offers guidance for pastors, friends, and anyone walking alongside those who grieve.

About the Podcast

Local Theologians is a podcast for everyday Christians and ministry leaders from Midwestern Seminary's Global Campus. Learn more about online theological education at mbts.edu/global.

Keywords

suffering, grief, pastoral care, biblical theology, sovereignty of God, comfort, lament, faith, hope, Nancy Guthrie

Takeaways

• Faith is not pressuring God for our preferred outcome—it’s trusting His wisdom and goodness.

• Avoid platitudes and phrases that diminish grief; instead, acknowledge the pain.

• Practical help often speaks louder than vague offers—act without waiting to be asked.

• Biblical theology provides a framework for understanding suffering within God’s redemptive story.

• Grief is not something to fix; it’s something to walk through with compassion and patience.

• God promises grace sufficient for every trial, even when He does not remove the pain.

• Hope rests in the future restoration and the end of the curse, not in immediate relief.

Sound Bites

• Faith is not us prescribing to God what He should do—it’s trusting Him when we don’t understand.

• Don’t say ‘at least’—it diminishes the loss.

• My grace is sufficient for you—God’s promise for every sufferer.

• Biblical theology helps us see suffering in light of the whole story of Scripture.

Chapters

1. 00:00 Introduction and Nancy Guthrie’s Background

2. 02:06 Nancy’s Story of Loss and Faith

3. 08:21 Wrestling with Prayer and God’s Sovereignty

4. 13:43 Lessons Learned Through Grief

5. 19:23 Common Missteps in Comforting Others

6. 24:50 What Really Helps and What Hurts

7. 32:40 Practical Ways to Serve Those Who Suffer

8. 37:46 How Biblical Theology Shapes Our View of Suffering

9. 46:06 The Hope of Resurrection and Renewal

10. 51:09 Go-To Scriptures for Comfort

11. 56:35 God’s Grace in the Midst of Pain

12. 01:00:33 Trusting Again After Hurt

13. 01:07:26 Closing Reflections