On this episode of Lipps Service, Scott sits down with hardcore punk icon Harley Flanagan, founder of Cro Mags, for a raw and wide ranging conversation on Lipps Service. From Harley’s chaotic early life and growing up in 1970s New York City to encounters with Allen Ginsberg, Andy Warhol, and Anthony Bourdain, the interview traces the cultural collision that shaped one of hardcore’s most influential figures. Harley dives into his first musical memories, discovering punk rock and The Clash, starting out as a drummer, and surviving the Lower East Side scene as it exploded. He reflects on early bands like The Stimulators, the formation of Cro Mags, and the possibility of reunions, while also discussing new Cro Mags music. The episode closes with Harley’s top five bass players and top five metal records, making this a must-listen deep dive into punk, metal, and New York underground history.

Timestamps:
0:00:46 - Wired for chaos
00:01:45 - Allen Ginsberg
00:04:00 - The documentary
00:07:14 - Anthony Bourdain
00:11:06 - Growing up in New York
00:17:18 - Warhol!
00:18:19 - Introduction to punk rock
00:22:37- First musical memory, The Clash
00:24:00 - On being a drummer first
00:24:31 - The Lower East Side in the 70s
00:36:00 - The stimulators
00:37:15 - Early recordings
00:39:25 - Having a hit out for Harley
00:44:12 - The formation of the Cro Mags
00:47:30 - The downfalls of the band
00:48:00 - Possible reunion?
00:49:51 - The night at Webster hall
1:00:21 - New cro mags music
1:01:52 - Top 5 bass players
1:06:22 - Top 5 metal records

On this episode of Lipps Service, Scott Lipps sits down with Shaggy 2 Dope of Insane Clown Posse for a raw, unfiltered look at how ICP built a movement from the ground up. Shaggy revisits growing up broke in Detroit, meeting Violent J, and the earliest days of hustling, passing out flyers, wrestling shows, and navigating real gang-adjacent street situations that shaped their worldview. He breaks down the inspiration behind the face paint, the transition from Inner City Posse, and the creation of the Dark Carnival mythology that helped define an entirely new genre. The conversation also dives into dangerous early shows, the Disney/Hollywood Records fallout, and how media attacks, industry feuds, and even FBI scrutiny only reinforced the Juggalos’ loyalty and culture. Shaggy reflects on the power of the Gathering of the Juggalos, ICP’s latest record, wild industry stories, and his personal Top 5 hip-hop artists, offering a definitive look at the controversy, community, and resilience that continue to define ICP’s legacy.

2:25 how ICP met

3:58 growing up in Detroit poor

6:30 on the early beginnings

7:52 on his first musical memory

10:20 on the early wrestling days

13:40 on passing out flyers for those early shows

15:00 on the idea for the makeup and KISS

20:20 on inner city posse

22:00 on early gang kid situations

23:57 on creating a genre

27:52 on the dark carnival

32:45 on the early dangerous shows

34:45 the Disney era. Hollywood records and getting banned.

49:13 on the Sharon Osbourne story and Howard stern

52:08 on the Eminem beef.

56:00 on the FBI time period

58:55 on the gatherings

1:04:24 on the latest record

1:06;25 on the Fred durst story

1:08:40 on his top 5 hip hop artists

Timestamps:

On this episode of Lipps Service, Scott Lipps sits down with Shaggy 2 Dope of Insane Clown Posse for a raw, unfiltered look at how ICP built a movement from the ground up. Shaggy revisits growing up broke in Detroit, meeting Violent J, and the earliest days of hustling, passing out flyers, wrestling shows, and navigating real gang-adjacent street situations that shaped their worldview. He breaks down the inspiration behind the face paint, the transition from Inner City Posse, and the creation of the Dark Carnival mythology that helped define an entirely new genre. The conversation also dives into dangerous early shows, the Disney/Hollywood Records fallout, and how media attacks, industry feuds, and even FBI scrutiny only reinforced the Juggalos’ loyalty and culture. Shaggy reflects on the power of the Gathering of the Juggalos, ICP’s latest record, wild industry stories, and his personal Top 5 hip-hop artists, offering a definitive look at the controversy, community, and resilience that continue to define ICP’s legacy.00:00 - Start03:25 - How ICP met04:58 - Growing up in Detroit poor 07:30 - Music beginnings 08:52 - First musical memory 0:11:20 - Early wrestling days0:15:40 - Passing out flyers for early shows0:16:00 - Idea for the makeup and KISS 0:21:20 - Inner city posse0:23:00 - Early gang kid situations0:24:57 - Creating a genre0:28:52 - The dark carnival0:33:45 - Early dangerous shows0:35:45 - The Disney era, Hollywood records, and getting banned0:50:13 - Sharon Osbourne story and Howard Stern0:53:08 - Eminem beef0:57:00 - FBI time period0:59:55 - Gatherings 1:05:24 - Latest record1:07:25 - Fred Durst story1:09:40 - Top 5 hip hop artists