Earlier this year, I got to talk with MTC Surf founder Elle Miller. My favorite part of Elle’s story is that she found healing on her surfboard and has now committed her life to sharing this gift of healing with those in foster care. I loved hearing about how the surf community and the foster care community are colliding through this very special organization, and I hope that you are inspired as you listen in.

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elle@mtcsurf.org

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https://www.mtcsurf.org/
IG: @MTCSurf
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Episode Recording Date: Jan 29, 2026

In this quick solo episode, I reflect on the conversation with my Grandma from Episode 10. Here are a few quick takeaways:

- Be on the lookout for opportunities to make friends in unexpected places
- When you have to forge your own path, you learn new things.
- Keep in touch in every season (good and hard)
- Keep in touch through conflict
- Keep in touch for the long haul
- Honor your elders, they are freaking tenacious

I hope you enjoyed this quick recap episode. If you didn't catch the full conversation with my Grandma Mickie, be sure to check out Episode 10 here!

To Connect with Theresa
IG: @theresa_babbitt
IG:@life_with_people_pod

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This episode was recorded on a random Thursday afternoon when I stopped by my friend Prudence Dancy's home. As we were hanging out, our conversation turned to the topic of clear communication. As we continued to talk, it hit me how valuable this topic is in doing life with people. I was like, "Wait, Prudence, we really need to record this conversation for the podcast." Thankfully, she agreed. Prudence Dancy is a dear friend and mentor of mine, and she has her own podcast, Pause with Prudence. We reference the Enneagram a lot in this episode, so if that is a new concept for you, please check out the resources below.

Enneagram Resources:
Road Back to You by Ian Morgan and Suzanne Stabile

Enneagram Institute: https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/
Welcome to the Enneagram: A Tool for Transformation

To Connect with Prudence:
Pause with Prudence: https://www.pausewithprudence.com/
IG: @pausewithprudence

To Connect with Theresa
IG: @theresa_babbitt
IG:@life_with_people_pod

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In this episode, I sit down with my 92-year-old grandmother, Mickie Marrone. My grandma has always been good at making and keeping friends. Everywhere she goes, everywhere she lives, she surrounds herself with vibrant friendships. This woman has a social life at 92 that would put most of the people I know to shame. Because of that, I wanted to sit down and talk to her. How does she make friends? How does she keep them? What things can I learn from her? We had this conversation toward the end of January 2026. Honestly, it took me a while to convince her to do this with me, and I'm glad that she did. I hope you enjoy this episode with the matriarch of my family, Mickie Marrone.

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To Connect with Theresa
IG: @theresa_babbitt
IG:@life_with_people_pod

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In this episode, I catch up with my friend, Matthew Bacchus. Matthew is a licensed professional counselor based out of CO and TX. I wanted to have Matthew on the podcast because he has a gift for connecting with people and cultivating friendships.

The episode is full of life and fun and laughter, but we also hit some very deep topics, so I wanted to give you a heads up that there are a couple of points in this episode where we talk about sensitive things like suicide and self-harm.

That being said, I wanna take a quick moment to say thank you to Matthew for sharing his life with us and for being willing to share some pretty vulnerable parts of his story.

As always, I value your feedback. So feel free to DM me, email me, take our community survey, send up a flare, do whatever you gotta do, but please reach out! Also, do me a favor and subscribe to the Life with People podcast. It helps others find the show like you!

To Connect with Matthew:
On IG: @mathewxbacchus
If you're a Denver local who wants to sprint: IG @crackodawnsprintcrew
For Counseling: https://www.bacchuscounseling.com/
https://christiancounselingco.com/who-we-are/matthew-bacchus/

Helpful Resources:
Modern Man In Search of Soul by Carl Jung
Love's Executioner by Irvin Yalom
Healing Path by Dan Allender
In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts by Gabor Mate

Matthew also referenced this episode of the Modern Wisdom Podcast early on in our conversation about social media:
Is Having a Boyfriend Cringe Now? - Rob Henderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbtPRgMOTCU

To Connect with Theresa
IG: @theresa_babbitt
IG:@life_with_people_pod

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Here's part three of our series, "Holding Space for Grief." In this episode I talk with my friend and Grief Recovery Method Specialist, Jocelyn Jackson Williams about telling the truth about ourselves and helping others to do the same as they move through the process of grief recovery. We hit some deep topics in this one and wrestle through our human tendencies when it comes to responding to loss and those around us.

Jocelyn Jackson Williams is an advocate for healing, recovery, and happiness. Over the past decade, she has been training professionals to help their clients heal from devastating loss and heartbreak as a Certification Trainer for the Grief Recovery Institute. Jocelyn has a background in consulting for couples and churches utilizing the tools of the DISC personality profile and Fierce Conversations program. As a life coach, Jocelyn is thrilled to support people to move past self-imposed roadblocks to achieve the life they truly desire. A published author, you can find her musings on her blogspot and in her monthly column with the Sacramento Observer.

To Connect with Jocelyn:
TikTok, IG, & Threads @jocelyn_takes_on

jocelynjacksonwilliams.com

Helpful Resources:
The Grief Recovery Handbook by John James and Russell Friedman

The Deeply Formed Life by Rich Villodas

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This is part 2 of our series, "Holding Space for Grief." In this episode, I sit down with creative entrepreneur and Marriage and Family Therapist Associate Ceci Frost to talk about her own journey with grief. Ceci's story uniquely positions her to talk about how different (but similar) losses can affect us is vastly different ways in varying seasons of our lives. How to embrace people who are showing up for you, even if those people are not the people you expected. And, how to accept that there is no right or wrong way to grieve.

I really enjoyed my conversation with Ceci. I hope her passion for this topic gives you courage and added insight into how to walk with people who are grieving as you continue to do life with people right where you are.

Connect with Ceci:
https://hopecollectivetherapy.com/

Books Ceci recommends on grief:
https://hopecollectivetherapy.com/blog/books-that-help-you-understand-grief

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This episode kicks off a series of conversations around the topic of grief and how we can hold space for it in our relationships. It's a topic that while I feel is gaining more awareness, is more often ignored when we think about building community and doing life with people. Truthfully, I think one of the main reasons is because it feels hard, heavy and it often requires something from us. It requires courage to wade into the uncomfortable waters of grief, to sit with them in their losses and to walk alongside them in dark seasons. And because grief looks and feels different for everyone I think one of the most powerful ways we can learn about it is by hearing people's stories. In this episode I talk with my good friend Noelle Roberts about her story of loss, facing a side of God she didn't recognize, sifting through ashes and learning how to dream again. You're going to want to lean in for this one...

To connect more with Noelle:
IG: @noellerobertsstudio
Website: Noelle Roberts Studio
Find Noelle on the Playbook App

Books mentioned in the episode that were helpful to Noelle during the early stages of grief.
A Grief Observed by C.S. Lewis
It's Okay That You're Not Okay by Megan Devine

More on the U-Shaped Diagram and Healing
Episode 91 from Adam Young's Podcast The Place We Find Ourselves

To Follow the Podcast on IG: @life_with_people_pod

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